Some Quick Things

[Chris Meck]

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

They play old school trenches football better than maybe any team in the league right now. i didn't really believe it until last night, seeing it on the big screen in the living room by myself. They're playing 80's/90's run-centric football, very similar to the kind the Chiefs played back then.

And KC can't play that kind of football against TEN, period. We don't have the horses.

I think Andy tried to a bit, but quickly realized that was a mistake. We were never going to beat TEN at their own game. Andy needed to play the Chiefs game which is more sophisticated and less about beating the tar out of the opponent and more about outsmarting them.

Heard commentators today talking about how the Chiefs abandoned the run and should have at least tried to stick it out. My thinking was, "Why?" If they want to play that nonsense 6-man front, we need to throw the ball every damn down. Running the ball at that point was a wasted down.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Heard commentators today talking about how the Chiefs abandoned the run and should have at least tried to stick it out. My thinking was, "Why?" If they want to play that nonsense 6-man front, we need to throw the ball every damn down. Running the ball at that point was a wasted down.

"Vrabel is sending the Chiefs a thank you card for every time they run the ball" - One of Collinsworth's better ones

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Right now, a top RB would be wasted behind this offensive line. Gotta improve there first.

Coach Heck will get that cleaned up/Andy

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Coach Heck will get that cleaned up/Andy

If he's benching Wylie, then yeah, ok, I'll bite.

Austin Reiter and Wylie have been most two most hated Chiefs. Finally got Reiter gone, but still have %$%#$#$#$# Wylie STARTING, for gods' sake.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Heard commentators today talking about how the Chiefs abandoned the run and should have at least tried to stick it out. My thinking was, "Why?" If they want to play that nonsense 6-man front, we need to throw the ball every damn down. Running the ball at that point was a wasted down.

You have to at least show that you're willing to run. Now, with KC (and say BUF) you can get away with running a bare-ass minimum number of times because Mahomes/Allen, but you can't just not run the ball ever. Teams that try that get beat, more often than not.

But part of what happened last night is all the errors and turnovers forced Andy's hand at a certain point. About when that INT happened with Kelce late in the third or whenever.

That was about the 6-minute mark in the third, iirc, and i remember checking the clock and realizing the Chiefs really only had about three drives left to score 8 points just to tie, and at least two score (min. 9 pts) to win the game in regulation. At that point, you abandon whatever is extraneous and roll with your best players and your best plays, which for KC are all in the passing game.

If we had a Saquon/McCaffrey/Henry maybe you still do some ground and pound, but the Chiefs don't any such thing. We have a Travis. And an Andy. And a Mahomes. Not one of those guys is an elite RB, obviously, but they comprise the core of one of the greatest air attacks in NFL history.

Sorry, I meant kore.

[Ming the Merciless]

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

"Vrabel is sending the Chiefs a thank you card for every time they run the ball" - One of Collinsworth's better ones

thats was funny


and when mahomes did that shot-put pass, i laughed at how giddy collinsworth got over how good it was.

[RINGLEADER]

I don't mind running the ball but use your speed and make the other guys fight to make the stop. Running straight ahead headlong into a mass of humanity over and over and over again just makes zero sense. I'm sure in the playbook there are all kinds of holes opening and the play is obviously designed to work, but after 10 attempts at variations on the same thing, you have to hang it up. Jet sweeps and bubble screens aren't necessarily an elixir for this kind of defensive game planning, but it would have been great to see us try a bit more of that and to get the Titans' interior moving laterally more to tire them out if nothing else.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

Good post.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

Wtf are you talking about? Cardinals were the 8th best offense 2021, LAC 4th, BUF 5th, SF 7th, LVR 11th, TB 2nd. That's 6 of the top-10 best offenses from last year that we played to start the 2022 season.

Only two of those offenses scored more than 24 points against our defense.

Only one team has scored more than 29 points.


What are you, blind?

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Only two of those offenses scored more than 24 points against our defense.

Only one team has scored more than 29 points.


What are you, blind?

so you're saying 24+ and 29+ are good performances?


and youre going by last years offensive numbers?


buffalo beat us..SF lost their starting QB...TB is trash this year...LVR is trash this year...LAC is trash this year..AZ has what , 3 wins?



Im not sold yet. How bout we go by THIS years results.? I mean you can tell yourself that these teams that were ok in 2021 are "high powered" now... but on your list only BUF remains, in my mind. Maybe SF....
Sorry i need to see alot more than barely beating a 1 dimensional team like the Titans before I am cock strutting about spags D. We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

so you're saying 24+ and 29+ are good performances?


and youre going by last years offensive numbers?


buffalo beat us..SF lost their starting QB...TB is trash this year...LVR is trash this year...LAC is trash this year..AZ has what , 3 wins?



Im not sold yet. How bout we go by THIS years results.? I mean you can tell yourself that these teams that were ok in 2021 are "high powered" now... but on your list only BUF remains, in my mind. Maybe SF....
Sorry i need to see alot more than barely beating a 1 dimensional team like the Titans before I am cock strutting about spags D. We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

Actually, the fact that this defense has only given up more than 24 points twice in 8 games vs. the talent-level they've faced is not bad at all. Regardless of their records, all of those teams have the talent on their rosters to score piles of points, particularly when facing a defense starting as many rookies/new guys as KC has been playing.


Wrote a big long argument, then said eff it. i know the defense is improving and will be a top-10 unit by week 12 or so. you just want to bitch. Fine.

Just be prepared to eat a lot of crow when they prove you wrong. Again.

Oh, one other thing: TEN scored just 3 points in the second half on their second possession. On every other possession TEN had in the second half and in OT they scored zero. nada. zilch. goose egg. Derrick Henry ran for less than 10 yards in the second half, no scores. TEN converted just ONE 3RD DOWN. 1-11.

[FAX]

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FAX

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

They ran a couple of screens and the Titans were ready for it. It wasn't working.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

McDuffie has played exactly one full game. The other guys are rookies. The defensive line is woefully understaffed.

To say he has the personnel is being disingenuous a bit.