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Old 12-05-2022, 11:27 AM  
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Late game FG attempt

Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back.

Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"......

The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:11 PM   #46
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As opposed to kicking a FG just to tie and giving the Bengals more than enough time to at least get a FG themselves.

Yea, I'm going for that 4th down every single time.
And further, you know you’re going for it on 4th when you’re calling your play for 3rd down.

Worst thing you can do is take a sack and make 4th down a decision again.

Perfect time to run the ball, kill more clock, and catch the Bengals expecting a pass.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:12 PM   #47
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They had a couple slant throws that just missed getting knocked down.
Yup, we just can't catch a break when we play these ****s.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:13 PM   #48
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Because we would have the lead, by 4 and they have to go score a TD not kick a fg.
Assuming we score a TD. And if we go for the TD we practically guarantee cincy touches the ball last where at least in a fg scenario you leave some reasonable hope to get one last offensive possession. The way our defense played yesterday I trusted them to give up a score quickly than I would trust them to protect a 4 point lead with plenty of time left.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:14 PM   #49
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Goddamn this was just a good play. Williams was all over Higgins. Look how close Karlaftis was from tipping that ball? And Danna was right in Burrow’s face as he threw the ball.

The ball had to be placed where it was and he did it. Sometimes you just tip the cap bc it’s hard to see many defenses defending that.

And of course Frank Clark was doing his trademark spin around to nowhere move on that play.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:14 PM   #50
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Assuming we score a TD. And if we go for the TD we practically guarantee cincy touches the ball last where at least in a fg scenario you leave some reasonable hope to get one last offensive possession. The way our defense played yesterday I trusted them to give up a score quickly than I would trust them to protect a 4 point lead with plenty of time left.
Even if you get the ball back, it's gonna be with little time and no time outs. YOu can't continue to work in that situation.

Go score a TD then let your defense play.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:14 PM   #51
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Cincy was likely going to have the last possession anyway after that drive… with their ability to move the ball and control the clock… so it would have been better to force them to get a TD to win versus only needing a FG.

That’s the stupidity of Andy Reid’s decision… besides choosing Butker/Toub’s special teams unit over Mahomes, even a made FG there doesn’t put the Chiefs in a solid position to win.
I’m with you. I’m just pointing out that the alternative isn’t nearly as rosy as everyone makes it out to be. If we score a td I believe we give up an easy bengals td and we never see the ball again. We probably lose that way too.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:14 PM   #52
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And further, you know you’re going for it on 4th when you’re calling your play for 3rd down.

Worst thing you can do is take a sack and make 4th down a decision again.

Perfect time to run the ball, kill more clock, and catch the Bengals expecting a pass.
brady and bill had the art of the of the clock-killing clutch drive mastered

i don't think i've seen the chiefs pull it off once with mahomes

we are good at scoring in one minute at the end of a game, not seven

this is the next step for mahomes i feel, on our path to become a dynasty...become master of the slow blade
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:16 PM   #53
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When it's been shown most of the game that the D couldn't get Cincy off the field, it was obvious that it was a four down scenario.
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Honestly, on that play, Danna should have held onto the G.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:20 PM   #55
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brady and bill had the art of the of the clock-killing clutch drive mastered

i don't think i've seen the chiefs pull it off once with mahomes

we are good at scoring in one minute at the end of a game, not seven

this is the next step for mahomes i feel, on our path to become a dynasty...become master of the slow blade
Feels blasphemous to say, but there’s a reason Brady has had so much success despite having one of the most boring highlight reels you’ll ever see.

The key for the Chiefs is to build up the DL to help out the back 7 (which I feel really good about still) and learn to take what’s there on offense from time to time. Read the situation and react appropriately.

Mahomes can do it. I have faith. It’s going to be epic and excruciating for the opposition. A truly helpless feeling watching Mahomes drain clock in key situations while moving down for the game winning score.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:22 PM   #56
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Goddamnit. You can’t fault Josh Williams here. Look at this right as the ball was caught. He’s right in his hip pocket and his long ass arm is over the middle.

The ball skimmed the top of his wrist as it was caught. You can’t ask for better coverage than that.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:25 PM   #57
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I’m with you. I’m just pointing out that the alternative isn’t nearly as rosy as everyone makes it out to be. If we score a td I believe we give up an easy bengals td and we never see the ball again. We probably lose that way too.
Even scoring a TD, no one is painting a rosy picture.

Obviously it would improve our chances greatly to have a 4 point margin than expect our D to protect a tie.

A tie at that point was 100% a loss. A TD at that point was still no certainty but definitely improved our chances.

Missed Field Goal = LOSS

Made Field Goal = LOSS

TD = A chance to win. Those were the options at that point.
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Goddamnit. You can’t fault Josh Williams here. Look at this right as the ball was caught. He’s right in his hip pocket and his long ass arm is over the middle.

The ball skimmed the top of his wrist as it was caught. You can’t ask for better coverage than that.
Anyone blaming him on that is an idiot. He did as well as you could hope for (plus he’s a rookie).

I still feel great about our corners. I think we’ll upgrade over Thornhill in the draft. Still have Bolton and Gay. Chenal has upside.

Fix the DL this offseason and the defense will be good. Easier said than done though.
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Even scoring a TD, no one is painting a rosy picture.

Obviously it would improve our chances greatly to have a 4 point margin than expect our D to protect a tie.

A tie at that point was 100% a loss. A TD at that point was still no certainty but definitely improved our chances.

Missed Field Goal = LOSS

Made Field Goal = LOSS

TD = A chance to win. Those were the options at that point.
Scoring a TD while bleeding the clock is the ideal.
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Andy needs to realize that KC is not the only team in the league where playing it safe is a horrible idea. Cincinnati and Buffalo at least are two teams you take chances against. We have the best QB in the league and I feel more comfortable with putting a chance to win it in his hands vs trying to tie on a 55 yard FG.
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