2023 Discount KC Crow Mock: WR in Round 1

[duncan_idaho]

Running this exercise with the Chiefs taking a WR in Round 1. Whole model is based on... what things would look like if Jalin Hyatt is available to the Chiefs at 31, and KC takes him.

So, here goes!

31: Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee. Hyatt isn't a perfect prospect. There are questions about his route tree and ability to be diverse. And I'm glad there are. It's the only reason he's here for KC. With his speed and quickness, Hyatt adds some major juice to the offense.

48 (Trade up with Seattle, sending 62, 2023 4th, and a 2024 2nd for 2023 48 and a 2024 3rd). Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland. My ideal draft in this case is offense-heavy early, nabbing a WR and a RT. Depending on what Wright's stock does, taking him here would make sense if available (he was in this mock, but I didn't believe he would be come draft day, so I didn't take Wright).

Duncan has all the athletic tools and needs to be coached up. Good prospect for KC. And what a name!

82 (Trade up with Tampa, sending #95 and a 6th for #82). Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. Smith's stock is hard to place right now. But KC has found success with Michigan DL products with a character flag and gets a cheap one here.

122 Brendon Cox, Jr. DE, FLorida. Cox is a twitchy, sturdy DE who has some versatility to his game as well as good quickness and speed off the edge.

And I'll stop tracking there, because we're still early in mock draft season and the lists get silly as you get into 3rd day picks.

This draft lets me take an economical approach at WR and OT in free agency, allowing prioritization on re-signing Orlando Brown and extending Sneed and Jones.

WR: Valdes-Scantling, Moore, Toney, Hyatt is your top 4 in this spot. Maybe you take a low-cost shot at D.J. Chark, but definitely bring back Justin Watson.

This officially lets you move on from Mecole Hardman, though.

OT: Brown, Jr-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Duncan is the goal. Need some depth at T (I still like Andre Dillard as an option there).

So. Thoughts?

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by JPH83

It's amazing the difference a year makes. Last year the clamour was for DL now we're talking about loading up at WR. I mean I'm here for it but I was just getting convinced by everyone to go for DL and the offense will be fine!

I thi the clamor for DL is still there. DE is still the most common pick I see in mocks. Also, pretty much everyone except for C Jones at DT is a FA and Jones needs his own contract extension, so the DL doesn’t have much long term stability as it currently stands.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Last year we did the heavy lifting to get a viable long-term SDE, IMO.

Now we can get a complementary DE opposite of him in the 2nd round.

I think OBJ is coming back and Clark likely is as well on a reduced deal. So if you can get a potentially dynamic WR in the first, a twitchy rusher, even as a rotational DE w/ Clark for a season in the 2nd round, and then a rangier safety in the 3rd or solid DT prospect in the 3rd, I think you're sitting awfully pretty.

Listen, I want the shiny sexy option in the first rd too. A WR would be awesome.

I just look at the history of the league and us specifically and cannot get around a tackle being the obvious choice. In the Super Bowl you’re almost assuredly gonna face elite pass rushing units. We did all 3 times and it’s basically the standard.

I think drafting a RT early, spending on team friendly receivers like we just did with Juju, MVS and Watson and then using the 3rd-4th rd on athletic types (trade for Toney) is the smart money.

Would really like to get more speed guys too. Calvin Austin, Danny Gray, Devin Duvernay, etc. They’re there. And they could at worst be a gadget type player.

I think that’s what they’re doing tbh. Getting guys like Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon as well as John Ross this year as a futures signing is just the beginning to try to get those guys any way we can.

I just can’t get on board with staying with guys like Wylie and Remmers at RT anymore

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Listen, I want the shiny sexy option in the first rd too. A WR would be awesome.

I just look at the history of the league and us specifically and cannot get around a tackle being the obvious choice. In the Super Bowl you’re almost assuredly gonna face elite pass rushing units. We did all 3 times and it’s basically the standard.

I think drafting a RT early, spending on team friendly receivers like we just did with Juju, MVS and Watson and then using the 3rd-4th rd on athletic types (trade for Toney) is the smart money.

Would really like to get more speed guys too. Calvin Austin, Danny Gray, Devin Duvernay, etc. They’re there. And they could at worst be a gadget type player.

I think that’s what they’re doing tbh. Getting guys like Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon as well as John Ross this year as a futures signing is just the beginning to try to get those guys any way we can.

I just can’t get on board with staying with guys like Wylie and Remmers at RT anymore

Is Rd1 the best place to get a right tackle though? If that player can maybe eventually transition to LT, sure, but it doesn’t seem like the most efficient use of draft resources.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I thi the clamor for DL is still there. DE is still the most common pick I see in mocks. Also, pretty much everyone except for C Jones at DT is a FA and Jones needs his own contract extension, so the DL doesn’t have much long term stability as it currently stands.

Probably right.

[O.city]

Thing is, they didn't really "choose" to have Wylie as the RT. Niang was a pretty highly thought of prospect who they drafted in the 3rd round.

I think you just have to continue swinging at it.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not locked in on him. I think there are several tackles who could fall in that range. He’s just the one I took this time.


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Andy loves the prototypical OT's specifically he won't draft a tackle if the guy doesn't have at least a 33.5 reach.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Andy loves the prototypical OT's specifically he won't draft a tackle if the guy doesn't have at least a 33.5 reach.

He might not draft one but he sure did sign some schmuck named Jason Peters away from Buffalo while he was in Philly.

That' said, there is an advantage to reach and it gets more difficult as you dip below that 33" mark.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Listen, I want the shiny sexy option in the first rd too. A WR would be awesome.

I just look at the history of the league and us specifically and cannot get around a tackle being the obvious choice. In the Super Bowl you’re almost assuredly gonna face elite pass rushing units. We did all 3 times and it’s basically the standard.

I think drafting a RT early, spending on team friendly receivers like we just did with Juju, MVS and Watson and then using the 3rd-4th rd on athletic types (trade for Toney) is the smart money.

Would really like to get more speed guys too. Calvin Austin, Danny Gray, Devin Duvernay, etc. They’re there. And they could at worst be a gadget type player.

I think that’s what they’re doing tbh. Getting guys like Corey Coleman and Josh Gordon as well as John Ross this year as a futures signing is just the beginning to try to get those guys any way we can.

I just can’t get on board with staying with guys like Wylie and Remmers at RT anymore

Remmers had a great season at RT. Played well enough over there to get us to a SB before one more injury than our OL could handle finally killed us against TB. Wylie just played a world class game to win us a championship after he played essentially every snap at the position for the top scoring and EASILY most efficient offense in this league.

Reid can scheme around any single lineman. Can he scheme around 3 of them? Well no, at that point we were sunk. But with an elite IOL and a strong LT, RT is exactly where we can cut some corners and allow Andy to work to keep that up to snuff.

I mean if a potential LT slides to the back of the 1st - sure, why not? It's a BPA scenario.

But I don't see it working out that the best player on the board is an OT and I see no reason to reach for one.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Remmers had a great season at RT. Played well enough over there to get us to a SB before one more injury than our OL could handle finally killed us against TB. Wylie just played a world class game to win us a championship after he played essentially every snap at the position for the top scoring and EASILY most efficient offense in this league.

Reid can scheme around any single lineman. Can he scheme around 3 of them? Well no, at that point we were sunk. But with an elite IOL and a strong LT, RT is exactly where we can cut some corners and allow Andy to work to keep that up to snuff.

I mean if a potential LT slides to the back of the 1st - sure, why not? It's a BPA scenario.

But I don't see it working out that the best player on the board is an OT and I see no reason to reach for one.

This is why I don't get the people who exclusively don't want a WR in the 1st because "Mahomes can make do with medicore WRs" - sure, but he and Reid can apparently make do with mediocre RTs as well. I think it's BPA from DE, WR and OT, and my guess is that ends up being DE given the depth there.

[In58men]

Is it too early for me to hype up Justyn Ross?

Next Rice or Moss? Who do you guys think? Lol

[duncan_idaho]

I think if the Chiefs are slightly inactive at WR, that's a sign they like what Ross can bring. Especially if they don't resign Smith-Schuster or Hardman.

[JPH83]

If Ross ends up being a viable starter that will be hilarious. I know there's mixed opinions here on his ability even without the injuries, but if he gets fit and is not completely compromised, getting him as a UDFA will give people fits.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

If Ross ends up being a viable starter that will be hilarious. I know there's mixed opinions here on his ability even without the injuries, but if he gets fit and is not completely compromised, getting him as a UDFA will give people fits.

People really question the ability of a guy that started over Tee Higgins until his neck deformity stopped him? I'd call those people stupid. He went for 1k as a Freshman in the ACC for ****s sake. He came back an had a bad foot injury but still led Clemson in yards.

Anyhow, if Ross is healthy he's like a 1st round pick for free. That's his talent level. There should be zero questions about his actual talent. The real question is that foot and the long term with his neck.