Brett Kollman DE & DT Tiers

**Meatloaf** · 04-22-2023, 01:31 PM

Haven’t seen this anywhere on CP, so I thought I’d post them. Kollman has a couple of YouTube vids where he goes in depth on each guy. Interesting. Anyway, here are his Tiers:

DE T1
Will Anderson, Alabama
Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech
Nolan Smith, Georgia
Myles Murphy, Clemson
DE T2
Lucas Van Ness, Iowa
Keion White, GA Tech
Will McDonald, Iowa St
Bryon Young, Tenn
BJ Ojulari, LSU
Derick Hall, Auburn
Dylan Horton, TCU
Tuli Tuipulotu, USC
Felix Anudike-Uzomah, KSU
DE T3
Nick Hampton, App St
Zach Harrison, Ohio St
Isaih Foksey, ND
Jose Ramirez, E Mich
Yasir Abdulla, Louisville
Ya Ya Diaby, Louisville
KJ Henry, Clemson
Mike Morris, Mich
BJ Thompson, SFAustin
Nick Herbig, Wisc
Derek Parish, Hou
Dante Stills, W VA
Ikenna Enechulou, Rice
Desjuan Johnson, Toledo
Andre Carter, Army

DT T1
Jalen Carter, Georgia
DT T2
Calijah Kancey, Pitt
Keeanu Benton, Wisc
Mazi Smith, Mich
DT T3
Adeyomiwa Adeboware, Northwestern
Jerrod Clark, Coastal Car
Kobie Turner, wake Forest
Bryon Young, Ala
Bryan Bresee, Clemson
Gervan Dexter, Fla
DT T4
Jaqueln Roy, LSU
HestavJade Silvera, AZ St
Moro Ojomo, TX
Siaki Ika, Baylor
Keondre Coburn, TX

Kollman’s YouTube assessments are long, extensive and very informative. FYI.

kcbubb · 04-22-2023, 02:37 PM

Can Adeyomiwa Adeboware play DE too? He’s athletic enough and he has the arm length.

TambaBerry · 04-22-2023, 02:40 PM

Tuli Tuipulotu, USC

I like him but I've seen him compared to Karlaftis. How true is that?

Couch-Potato · 04-22-2023, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Tuli Tuipulotu, USC

I like him but I've seen him compared to Karlaftis. How true is that?

I'm not sure, but I do know he was moved all over the defense at USC throughout the year. DE, DT, OLB, and even ILB so I think he's a little more versatile than Karlaftis.

kcbubb · 04-22-2023, 03:06 PM

https://youtu.be/vnV7ZlGubhc

I’ll answer my own question on Adeboware. He’s played on the edge a lot. He’s tough, physical and violent and plays through double teams and to the whistle, often chasing plays downfield. He’s built really thick all over at 280 lbs but his lower half is really powerful with a big butt and thick legs to bull rush or anchor. I’d love him as an edge prospect in spags system. He is short but he can anchor the edge and also has upside with his athleticism to become a better pass rusher with his speed. He’s at his best on stunts where he can just fly and use his speed without having to read or diagnose.

6’2”
282 lbs
33 7/8” arms
4.49 40 (crazy fast)
1.61 ten yard split
37” vert
10’5” broad

This guys a freak. And he plays hard. And he has some interesting fits with being able to slide inside on passing downs. I’d love to pick him in the 2nd, crazy talent and effort player that’s learning.

Couch-Potato · 04-22-2023, 03:37 PM

I'm hoping for Myles Murphy!

kozzman555 · 04-22-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I'm not sure, but I do know he was moved all over the defense at USC throughout the year. DE, DT, OLB, and even ILB so I think he's a little more versatile than Karlaftis.

I think he's a more athletic version of Karlaftis

Dante84 · 04-23-2023, 10:56 AM

I really liked Byron Young (Tenn) highlights.

TambaBerry · 04-23-2023, 11:45 AM

Someone sell me on Keion White, I'm not seeing it with him

kozzman555 · 04-23-2023, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Someone sell me on Keion White, I'm not seeing it with him

I talked with Jared from Subway and he agrees that Keion is too old. Pass

JPH83 · 04-23-2023, 01:07 PM

He's right about Van Ness imo. Feels like there's a correction happening after all the (mad) top 20 talk. I just don't get that guy.

JPH83 · 04-23-2023, 01:09 PM

Also glad that Karl Brooks has once again fallen off people's radar for the opposite reason, would love to get him in the 4th or 5th. Won't make an impact early but there's a lot to work with.

Chargem · 04-24-2023, 07:21 AM

I've been listening to various podcasts and I am getting more and more certain the Chiefs don't take a DE in the 1st round, and maybe not even in the 2nd.

The Chiefs probably consider themselves to have starting DEs locked up for the next 2 years in Karlaftis and Omenihu, I can't see them taking a DE in the 1st round that they don't see a path to "starter" for until 3 years time, and I don't think the talent is right at the back end of the round either for what the Chiefs would want.

I see DE as more of a 3rd or 4th round, rotational guy who can develop situation.

Chris Meck · 04-24-2023, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem

I've been listening to various podcasts and I am getting more and more certain the Chiefs don't take a DE in the 1st round, and maybe not even in the 2nd.

The Chiefs probably consider themselves to have starting DEs locked up for the next 2 years in Karlaftis and Omenihu, I can't see them taking a DE in the 1st round that they don't see a path to "starter" for until 3 years time, and I don't think the talent is right at the back end of the round either for what the Chiefs would want.

I see DE as more of a 3rd or 4th round, rotational guy who can develop situation.

You may be right. Carter would be a nice project at the end of the third.

Couch-Potato · 04-24-2023, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You may be right. Carter would be a nice project at the end of the third.

Agreed!

04-22-2023, 01:31 PM
Meatloaf Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $2000359	Brett Kollman DE & DT Tiers Haven’t seen this anywhere on CP, so I thought I’d post them. Kollman has a couple of YouTube vids where he goes in depth on each guy. Interesting. Anyway, here are his Tiers: DE T1 Will Anderson, Alabama Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech Nolan Smith, Georgia Myles Murphy, Clemson DE T2 Lucas Van Ness, Iowa Keion White, GA Tech Will McDonald, Iowa St Bryon Young, Tenn BJ Ojulari, LSU Derick Hall, Auburn Dylan Horton, TCU Tuli Tuipulotu, USC Felix Anudike-Uzomah, KSU DE T3 Nick Hampton, App St Zach Harrison, Ohio St Isaih Foksey, ND Jose Ramirez, E Mich Yasir Abdulla, Louisville Ya Ya Diaby, Louisville KJ Henry, Clemson Mike Morris, Mich BJ Thompson, SFAustin Nick Herbig, Wisc Derek Parish, Hou Dante Stills, W VA Ikenna Enechulou, Rice Desjuan Johnson, Toledo Andre Carter, Army DT T1 Jalen Carter, Georgia DT T2 Calijah Kancey, Pitt Keeanu Benton, Wisc Mazi Smith, Mich DT T3 Adeyomiwa Adeboware, Northwestern Jerrod Clark, Coastal Car Kobie Turner, wake Forest Bryon Young, Ala Bryan Bresee, Clemson Gervan Dexter, Fla DT T4 Jaqueln Roy, LSU HestavJade Silvera, AZ St Moro Ojomo, TX Siaki Ika, Baylor Keondre Coburn, TX Kollman’s YouTube assessments are long, extensive and very informative. FYI.
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04-22-2023, 02:37 PM	#2
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $4996719	Can Adeyomiwa Adeboware play DE too? He’s athletic enough and he has the arm length.
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04-22-2023, 02:40 PM	#3
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04-22-2023, 03:06 PM	#5
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $4996719	https://youtu.be/vnV7ZlGubhc I’ll answer my own question on Adeboware. He’s played on the edge a lot. He’s tough, physical and violent and plays through double teams and to the whistle, often chasing plays downfield. He’s built really thick all over at 280 lbs but his lower half is really powerful with a big butt and thick legs to bull rush or anchor. I’d love him as an edge prospect in spags system. He is short but he can anchor the edge and also has upside with his athleticism to become a better pass rusher with his speed. He’s at his best on stunts where he can just fly and use his speed without having to read or diagnose. 6’2” 282 lbs 33 7/8” arms 4.49 40 (crazy fast) 1.61 ten yard split 37” vert 10’5” broad This guys a freak. And he plays hard. And he has some interesting fits with being able to slide inside on passing downs. I’d love to pick him in the 2nd, crazy talent and effort player that’s learning.
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04-24-2023, 07:21 AM	#13
Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $1030400	I've been listening to various podcasts and I am getting more and more certain the Chiefs don't take a DE in the 1st round, and maybe not even in the 2nd. The Chiefs probably consider themselves to have starting DEs locked up for the next 2 years in Karlaftis and Omenihu, I can't see them taking a DE in the 1st round that they don't see a path to "starter" for until 3 years time, and I don't think the talent is right at the back end of the round either for what the Chiefs would want. I see DE as more of a 3rd or 4th round, rotational guy who can develop situation.
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