CBS 7 Round Mock - Page 5

kccrow · 04-19-2023, 02:17 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...all-259-picks/

They are much higher on some prospects than we are and much, much lower on some others giving it a look through.

Here are the Chiefs' picks:

1.31 Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma
2.63 Adetomiwa Adebawore, EDGE, Northwestern
3.95 Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee
4.122 Cameron Young, DL, Mississippi State
4.134 Kendre Miller, RB, TCU
5.166 Brayden Willis, TE, Oklahoma
6.178 Jose Ramirez, EDGE, Eastern Michigan
6.217 Keidron Smith, CB, Kentucky
7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton
7.250 Nesta Jade Silvera, DL, Arizona State

Mecca · 04-20-2023, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Present your own and I'll see if I like yours.

Did you get a list of likely available players or did you just wing it?

kccrow · 04-20-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Did you get a list of likely available players or did you just wing it?

It's a mock Dj and Pest were throwing out there. I moved some players up they had too low in my opinion (Saldiveri and Johnson) and inserted a couple of changes (Wylie over Kuntz, Stills over Clark) and filled in the one blank with Valladay. It's based on composite rankings and gut feeling.

DJ's left nut · 04-20-2023, 11:55 AM

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Here DJ, this is what would sell me (had to move some guys where I think they'll be)...

1st: ER Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2nd: WR Rashee Rice, SMU
3rd: OT Blake Freeland, BYU
4a: TE Josh Whyle, Cincinnati
4b: OT/G Nick Saldiveri, Old Dominion
5: DT Keondre Coburn, Texas
6a: FS Anthony Johnson Jr., Iowa State
6b: DT Dante Stills, West Virginia
7a: RB Xazavian Valladay, Arizona State
7b: LB Cam Jones, Indiana

So I lose McGuire due to the value adjustments but I don't think any of those were unreasonable.

Lemme keep Kuntz and his lunatic measurables over Whyle's polish and I can get behind this...

DJ's left nut · 04-20-2023, 11:57 AM

You know what this is?

It's Willie Gay vs Logan Wilson again. I think you were the one who was adamant on Wilson over Gay, right?

Tools vs Polish. Ceiling vs floor. Dog person vs cat person (morons).

Tale as old as time...

**The Franchise** · 04-20-2023, 11:58 AM

Yep. He was Wilson over Gay.

DJ's left nut · 04-20-2023, 12:18 PM

Funny thing is - I don't think either side was wrong.

But I do think we just got something REAL close to Wilson in Tranquill and got him for very little.

On balance, I think we've been just a little better for taking Gay than we would've been with Wilson but there both very good players.

kccrow · 04-20-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Funny thing is - I don't think either side was wrong.

But I do think we just got something REAL close to Wilson in Tranquill and got him for very little.

On balance, I think we've been just a little better for taking Gay than we would've been with Wilson but there both very good players.

Yeah I was Wilson over Gay. So far, Wilson has been a much better player. If Gay continues to grow he has the potential to have a better 2nd half of their careers but he'll never be as good in coverage. Not that Wilson is amazing there either but its a little stab against Gay who's pretty bad there.

DJ's left nut · 04-20-2023, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Yeah I was Wilson over Gay. So far, Wilson has been a much better player. If Gay continues to grow he has the potential to have a better 2nd half of their careers but he'll never be as good in coverage. Not that Wilson is amazing there either but its a little stab against Gay who's pretty bad there.

Yeah, I'd say Wilson has been better than Gay to this point ('much' better?...ehhh).

But again, look at what we got Tranquill and I think he's a real similar but slightly better player than Wilson. Whereas I think Gay has more versatility and more 'splash' potential.

I think the Chiefs are in a better position right this very minute for having taken Gay than they would've been taking Tranquill.

But it's so sliding doors as to barely be worth mentioning. Ultimately I think you have fairly defensible positions either way - I just prefer the upside more often than not. And in a situation where we have a brilliant HC for coaching up TEs and a generational talent with crazy intuition he can learn under - I'm just more excited about gambling on the tools.

Wisconsin_Chief · 04-20-2023, 02:33 PM

If those are our first 3 picks I'll need to stock up on paper towels. You know, for the semen.

kccrow · 04-20-2023, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I'd say Wilson has been better than Gay to this point ('much' better?...ehhh).

But again, look at what we got Tranquill and I think he's a real similar but slightly better player than Wilson. Whereas I think Gay has more versatility and more 'splash' potential.

I think the Chiefs are in a better position right this very minute for having taken Gay than they would've been taking Tranquill.

But it's so sliding doors as to barely be worth mentioning. Ultimately I think you have fairly defensible positions either way - I just prefer the upside more often than not. And in a situation where we have a brilliant HC for coaching up TEs and a generational talent with crazy intuition he can learn under - I'm just more excited about gambling on the tools.

Much better, yes. Very rose-colored glasses on Gay as a whole in the Chiefs fandom. He's very mediocre. There's a very good chance he loses his starting gig this year. Not that he won't see snaps but with Tranquill in now it's not out of the realm of possibility.

DJ's left nut · 04-24-2023, 11:27 AM

Taylor has a new Mock out today.

I can't state strongly enough how much I hate his draft content. **** it's awful.

**The Franchise** · 04-24-2023, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Taylor has a new Mock out today.

I can't state strongly enough how much I hate his draft content. **** it's awful.

Just in case anyone wants to see how shitty it is.

Traded 31 and a 4th to move up to 26.

1 (26). Mazi Smith, DT
2 (63). Tucker Kraft, TE
3 (95). Roschon Johnson, RB

Traded a 4th, 6th, both 7ths and CEH to the Pats for 107.

4 (107). Braden Daniels, OT
4 (117). Riley Moss, CB - Side note...he never says where he's getting 117 from. No clue how we even got that pick since we had 122 and 135.
5 (166). Dorian Thompson-Robinson, QB
6 (178). Viliami Fehoko, Edge
6 (192). Lonnie Phelps, Edge
6 (210). Jalen Moreno-Cropper, WR

I have no clue where he was getting all of those picks from. We started out with two 6ths and two 7ths but somehow traded away picks and ended up with three 6ths?

DJ's left nut · 04-24-2023, 01:39 PM

It's not quite as bad as Peter King's draft because Smith at least makes sense - it just doesn't make sense to trade up. The rest of them are just...dumb.

Mecca · 04-24-2023, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Just in case anyone wants to see how shitty it is.

Traded 31 and a 4th to move up to 26.

1 (26). Mazi Smith, DT
2 (63). Tucker Kraft, TE
3 (95). Roschon Johnson, RB

Traded a 4th, 6th, both 7ths and CEH to the Pats for 107.

4 (107). Braden Daniels, OT
4 (117). Riley Moss, CB - Side note...he never says where he's getting 117 from. No clue how we even got that pick since we had 122 and 135.
5 (166). Dorian Thompson-Robinson, QB
6 (178). Viliami Fehoko, Edge
6 (192). Lonnie Phelps, Edge
6 (210). Jalen Moreno-Cropper, WR

I have no clue where he was getting all of those picks from. We started out with two 6ths and two 7ths but somehow traded away picks and ended up with three 6ths?

That draft is pretty awful...why would we take a QB?

DJ's left nut · 04-24-2023, 02:37 PM

Imma have to give that the ol' frowney face on the Athletic App.

If Nate's not going to put any effort into draft analysis, he needs to stop doing it.

04-19-2023, 02:17 PM
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1280000	CBS 7 Round Mock https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...all-259-picks/ They are much higher on some prospects than we are and much, much lower on some others giving it a look through. Here are the Chiefs' picks: 1.31 Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma 2.63 Adetomiwa Adebawore, EDGE, Northwestern 3.95 Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee 4.122 Cameron Young, DL, Mississippi State 4.134 Kendre Miller, RB, TCU 5.166 Brayden Willis, TE, Oklahoma 6.178 Jose Ramirez, EDGE, Eastern Michigan 6.217 Keidron Smith, CB, Kentucky 7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton 7.250 Nesta Jade Silvera, DL, Arizona State
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04-20-2023, 11:57 AM	#64
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	You know what this is? It's Willie Gay vs Logan Wilson again. I think you were the one who was adamant on Wilson over Gay, right? Tools vs Polish. Ceiling vs floor. Dog person vs cat person (morons). Tale as old as time... __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-20-2023, 11:58 AM	#65
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Yep. He was Wilson over Gay.
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04-20-2023, 12:18 PM	#66
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	Funny thing is - I don't think either side was wrong. But I do think we just got something REAL close to Wilson in Tranquill and got him for very little. On balance, I think we've been just a little better for taking Gay than we would've been with Wilson but there both very good players. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-20-2023, 02:33 PM	#69
Wisconsin_Chief MVP Join Date: Aug 2019 Casino cash: $-1099600	If those are our first 3 picks I'll need to stock up on paper towels. You know, for the semen.
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04-24-2023, 11:27 AM	#71
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	Taylor has a new Mock out today. I can't state strongly enough how much I hate his draft content. **** it's awful. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-24-2023, 01:39 PM	#73
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	It's not quite as bad as Peter King's draft because Smith at least makes sense - it just doesn't make sense to trade up. The rest of them are just...dumb. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,857

04-24-2023, 02:37 PM	#75
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	Imma have to give that the ol' frowney face on the Athletic App. If Nate's not going to put any effort into draft analysis, he needs to stop doing it. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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