Football Your assessment of Brandon Staley - Page 15

Deberg_1990 · 12-17-2021, 07:27 AM

Says he’s sticking with his 4th down approach……..good for him.

Chargers coach Brandon Staley isn't changing his ways: He says he will continue to go for it on fourth down, even after three out of Los Angeles' five attempts Thursday night failed in a 34-28 overtime defeat to the Kansas City Chiefs.

"I felt really comfortable with all those decisions," Staley said after the loss, which dropped the Chargers two games behind the Chiefs in the AFC West standings with three to play. "That's the way we're going to play around here. That's the way we're going to play. When we have a quarterback like ours, and we have an offense like ours, that's the way we're going to play because that's how you need to play against Kansas City, for sure. That's how we're going to become the team that we're ultimately capable of being, by playing that way."

The Chargers entered the game 13 for 21 on fourth downs this season, giving them the fourth-most conversions in the league. Their conversion percentage (61.9) was tied for eighth best in the NFL.

Two of Los Angeles' failed attempts to convert came inside the Kansas City 5, and another was on the edge of field goal range. The Chargers became the first team to fail twice on fourth-and-goal in a first half since the 1984 Chargers did the same -- also against the Chiefs -- 37 years ago to the day (Dec. 16, 1984).

Quarterback Justin Herbert said he stands by his coach and his decisions on fourth down.

"It's always tough and you'd love to be able to convert those," Herbert said. "I think we need to be better on third downs so that we're not in those situations, but we believe in each other. We believe in the guys in that locker room and that huddle, and we believe in the defense. I think that's a statement of trusting everyone on the field and off the field, as well. We love to be put in those situations. Unfortunately, we didn't convert as many as we would've liked to have today, but we're going to ride with each other and we're going to be right back."

With Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill on the other sideline, Staley and his coaching staff realized no lead would be safe until the clock ran out. That's why they never stopped trying to score in all situations: Only the very last of the Chargers' 10 drives ended in a punt.

"It's life in the NFL, in decision-making like that. ... I know that the quickest way to win a game like that is to score touchdowns, not field goals, especially considering who's on the other side," Staley said. "When you don't feel like it's a gamble, when you feel like this is an advantage for you, then that's going to be our mindset. And I don't think that any decision that we made tonight, that I made tonight, was a gamble. We felt like it was an advantage situation for us, and that's why we did it.''

Herbert and his teammates came agonizingly close to proving Staley correct.

Donald Parham seriously injured himself while coming down just out of bounds with a catch in the back of the end zone on the Chargers' failed fourth down from the Kansas City 5 on the game's opening drive.

Four drives later on the final snap of the first half, Herbert was in the shotgun on fourth down from the Kansas City 1 -- but Daniel Sorensen got his hand on a quick out to Keenan Allen, wiping out a potential TD pass and leaving the Chargers' halftime lead at only 14-10 despite 208 yards of offense on five solid drives.

The Chargers' only drive of the third quarter ended at the Kansas City 28 when Herbert and Jared Cook couldn't connect on a fourth-and-2 pass. Cook also dropped a probable touchdown pass on second down during that final drive before halftime.

After Thursday's game, the Chargers have now gone for it on fourth down 29.9% of the time this season. That's the highest rate for any team since the 2007 Jacksonville Jaguars (30.0%).

"We felt like it was an advantage situation for us," Staley explained. "That's why we did it. If we didn't feel like that was the case, then we would have kicked a field goal or we would have punted. That's the way that we're going to do things around here. I know that our team embraces that mindset. We're going to continue to do it every game we play moving forward."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...way-going-play

"The quickest way to win a game like that is to score touchdowns not field goals, especially considering who's on the other side."

Chargers coach Brandon Staley on being aggressive on 4th down against the Chiefs. pic.twitter.com/4mskizFo2J
— CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) December 17, 2021

**RealSNR** · 01-10-2022, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Based on ****ing what exactly?

The guy is a defensive minded coach and his defense ****ing sucks.

He got a HC job because he was the coordinator for a defense with Donald and Ramsey. He hasn’t proven that he’s a “smart coach” by any means.

Exactly.

He’s a division 3 college DC. That’s it.

He’s not going to survive the NFL

St. Patty's Fire · 01-10-2022, 05:07 PM

People really thought this guy was an innovative genius bc he played 2 safeties deep and left 6 in the run fit more often than not

Crazy how that works when you have the Rams defense and immediately fails when you have the Chargers

eDave · 01-10-2022, 05:08 PM

I think he can be good. He's just not experienced. This feel for the game sucks balls but that comes with time.

He'll second guess decisions like yesterday the more they **** him.

Halfcan · 01-10-2022, 07:10 PM

Staley is such a pouty little bitch. He has the most punchable face since John Elway and Rex Ryan.

He cost his team a chance to win and be in the playoffs. He should be fired for being such a ****ing moron.

BigCatDaddy · 01-10-2022, 07:30 PM

Looks like a guy more likely to wear a pussy hat than make a porn with the Charger cheerleaders. I'm selling on Staley.

tredadda · 01-10-2022, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

People really thought this guy was an innovative genius bc he played 2 safeties deep and left 6 in the run fit more often than not

Crazy how that works when you have the Rams defense and immediately fails when you have the Chargers

Chargers have talent on defense, so that's an even bigger indictment.

Oxford · 01-10-2022, 07:56 PM

Of all the GM's/Coaches leaving to pursue career opportunities elsewhere, I think this one is a mistake. Not a big Bolts fan, but this will set them back for a year.

That team was a problem for the Chiefs and Brandon Staley was part of that. Not bad for the Chiefs though, you just wonder what the "rest of the story is"

St. Patty's Fire · 01-10-2022, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Chargers have talent on defense, so that's an even bigger indictment.

Yeah, they do, they’re just not built to stop the run with a box that isn’t at least +1. Hell, they can barely stop the run even with a numbers advantage. Their DL is more of a pass rush first unit.

Staley called more single high looks as the year went on but they still got gashed on the ground. I think he’ll want to improve that aspect of their roster this offseason, particularly the interior DL.

ChiefaRoo · 01-10-2022, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

That is simply amazing.

So we are living in a simulation?

ILChief · 01-11-2022, 07:21 AM

He’s an idiot

RunKC · 09-13-2023, 12:38 PM

He's getting fired. Probably this year. No excuse for this from a defensive coach.

Tyreek Hill ran 21 routes vs single coverage in Week 1...

He recorded:

- 10 targets
- 6 catches
- 151 yards
- 2 TDs

https://x.com/pff/status/17019513680...YJXccxRIbYwg3A

**Bowser** · 09-13-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

He's getting fired. Probably this year. No excuse for this from a defensive coach.

Tyreek Hill ran 21 routes vs single coverage in Week 1...

He recorded:

- 10 targets
- 6 catches
- 151 yards
- 2 TDs

https://x.com/pff/status/17019513680...YJXccxRIbYwg3A

Yeesh. It's not like the Chargers didn't have tape on him from the years he was here, either. That must be some severely misplaced trust in JC Jackson's ability to play press man on one of the most talented receivers in the league for the majority of a game.

Frazod · 09-13-2023, 12:45 PM

Love him. He needs to stay with the Chargers forever.

MahomesMagic · 09-13-2023, 12:46 PM

I underestimated how stupid he was when I bet the LAC/MIAMI under.

Lol

Thought it would be obvious to make Miami beat you with their run game...

crispystl · 09-13-2023, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I underestimated how stupid he was when I bet the LAC/MIAMI under.

Lol

Thought it would be obvious to make Miami beat you with their run game...

I didn’t when I bet Miami +2.5

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12-17-2021, 07:27 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $294454	Your assessment of Brandon Staley Says he’s sticking with his 4th down approach……..good for him. Chargers coach Brandon Staley isn't changing his ways: He says he will continue to go for it on fourth down, even after three out of Los Angeles' five attempts Thursday night failed in a 34-28 overtime defeat to the Kansas City Chiefs. "I felt really comfortable with all those decisions," Staley said after the loss, which dropped the Chargers two games behind the Chiefs in the AFC West standings with three to play. "That's the way we're going to play around here. That's the way we're going to play. When we have a quarterback like ours, and we have an offense like ours, that's the way we're going to play because that's how you need to play against Kansas City, for sure. That's how we're going to become the team that we're ultimately capable of being, by playing that way." The Chargers entered the game 13 for 21 on fourth downs this season, giving them the fourth-most conversions in the league. Their conversion percentage (61.9) was tied for eighth best in the NFL. Two of Los Angeles' failed attempts to convert came inside the Kansas City 5, and another was on the edge of field goal range. The Chargers became the first team to fail twice on fourth-and-goal in a first half since the 1984 Chargers did the same -- also against the Chiefs -- 37 years ago to the day (Dec. 16, 1984). Quarterback Justin Herbert said he stands by his coach and his decisions on fourth down. "It's always tough and you'd love to be able to convert those," Herbert said. "I think we need to be better on third downs so that we're not in those situations, but we believe in each other. We believe in the guys in that locker room and that huddle, and we believe in the defense. I think that's a statement of trusting everyone on the field and off the field, as well. We love to be put in those situations. Unfortunately, we didn't convert as many as we would've liked to have today, but we're going to ride with each other and we're going to be right back." With Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill on the other sideline, Staley and his coaching staff realized no lead would be safe until the clock ran out. That's why they never stopped trying to score in all situations: Only the very last of the Chargers' 10 drives ended in a punt. "It's life in the NFL, in decision-making like that. ... I know that the quickest way to win a game like that is to score touchdowns, not field goals, especially considering who's on the other side," Staley said. "When you don't feel like it's a gamble, when you feel like this is an advantage for you, then that's going to be our mindset. And I don't think that any decision that we made tonight, that I made tonight, was a gamble. We felt like it was an advantage situation for us, and that's why we did it.'' Herbert and his teammates came agonizingly close to proving Staley correct. Donald Parham seriously injured himself while coming down just out of bounds with a catch in the back of the end zone on the Chargers' failed fourth down from the Kansas City 5 on the game's opening drive. Four drives later on the final snap of the first half, Herbert was in the shotgun on fourth down from the Kansas City 1 -- but Daniel Sorensen got his hand on a quick out to Keenan Allen, wiping out a potential TD pass and leaving the Chargers' halftime lead at only 14-10 despite 208 yards of offense on five solid drives. The Chargers' only drive of the third quarter ended at the Kansas City 28 when Herbert and Jared Cook couldn't connect on a fourth-and-2 pass. Cook also dropped a probable touchdown pass on second down during that final drive before halftime. After Thursday's game, the Chargers have now gone for it on fourth down 29.9% of the time this season. That's the highest rate for any team since the 2007 Jacksonville Jaguars (30.0%). "We felt like it was an advantage situation for us," Staley explained. "That's why we did it. If we didn't feel like that was the case, then we would have kicked a field goal or we would have punted. That's the way that we're going to do things around here. I know that our team embraces that mindset. We're going to continue to do it every game we play moving forward." https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...way-going-play "The quickest way to win a game like that is to score touchdowns not field goals, especially considering who's on the other side." Chargers coach Brandon Staley on being aggressive on 4th down against the Chiefs. pic.twitter.com/4mskizFo2J — CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) December 17, 2021
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01-10-2022, 05:07 PM	#212
St. Patty's Fire Same as the old boss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: North NJ Casino cash: $1204900	People really thought this guy was an innovative genius bc he played 2 safeties deep and left 6 in the run fit more often than not Crazy how that works when you have the Rams defense and immediately fails when you have the Chargers __________________ Chief good "The word 'bipartisan' usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." – George Carlin
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01-10-2022, 05:08 PM	#213
eDave Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $9998560	I think he can be good. He's just not experienced. This feel for the game sucks balls but that comes with time. He'll second guess decisions like yesterday the more they **** him.
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01-10-2022, 07:10 PM	#214
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Staley is such a pouty little bitch. He has the most punchable face since John Elway and Rex Ryan. He cost his team a chance to win and be in the playoffs. He should be fired for being such a ****ing moron.
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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-1610878	Looks like a guy more likely to wear a pussy hat than make a porn with the Charger cheerleaders. I'm selling on Staley.
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01-10-2022, 07:56 PM	#217
Oxford Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Springfield,MO Casino cash: $9605535	Of all the GM's/Coaches leaving to pursue career opportunities elsewhere, I think this one is a mistake. Not a big Bolts fan, but this will set them back for a year. That team was a problem for the Chiefs and Brandon Staley was part of that. Not bad for the Chiefs though, you just wonder what the "rest of the story is" __________________ I summon the IRON , Cookin up a whoopin for YOU YOU YOU!
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01-11-2022, 07:21 AM	#220
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1450389	He's getting fired. Probably this year. No excuse for this from a defensive coach. Tyreek Hill ran 21 routes vs single coverage in Week 1... He recorded: - 10 targets - 6 catches - 151 yards - 2 TDs https://x.com/pff/status/17019513680...YJXccxRIbYwg3A __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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