Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023 - Page 6

DenverChief · 09-17-2023, 03:33 PM

1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense. 1.5 Sacks, 2 QB Hits and 1 Pass Defensed. FAU, Danna and Karlaftis showed up huge in QB sacks and pressures. Lawrence was very uncomfortable in the pocket on many drives. Chenal showed up clutch on a few plays most notably not being fooled by the screen pass on 2nd and ten that led to the third and long before Jax turned the ball over on downs.

2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!. On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard. Toney and Moore atoned for their drops 5/5 for 35 yards and 3/4 for 70 yards and TD respectively. The Jax defense is a good defense, while we didn't play perfect and still have A LOT of room for improvement we definitely ironed out some of the more fixable problems.

3. Jawaan Taylor - this is going to be an ongoing issue with the refs I'm afraid - PTW seemed solid in relief. I'm not sure what to do here bench him and play PTW? Try and trade him? I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties.

4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis.

5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again 12 Carries for 70 Yards and 5.8 yd average. I love his running style and that 31 yard rip was a thing of beauty. I just wish he could have put it over the goal at the end of the game for a nice cherry on top of his running day.

6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part.

7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet - not sure if it's still knocking the rust off of the offseason or what. I would expect next week we will see a much more crisp game with our offense. This would have technically been week 1 this week.

8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.

Chieftain · 09-17-2023, 11:10 PM

McDuffie is such a shutdown dawg. Him and Cook are the catalysts of the secondary.

mschiefs1984 · 09-17-2023, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsneu

The entire AFC west except Denver is 1-1 right now. Who would have thought that coming into this year's regular season? I thought KC and LA would be 2-0 and LAR would start the season at 0-2

The Chargers are 0-2

Imon Yourside · 09-17-2023, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

Where's George?

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Brett? Retired.

Behind the Statue?

suzzer99 · 09-17-2023, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Great offenses make great teams. But dynasties ALWAYS have ONE THING in common.

DEFENSE

A storm is coming.

Patriots have 6 SBs. Guessing this graphic was put out before 2019.

JPH83 · 09-18-2023, 12:23 AM

I thought:

- Defense was excellent, obviously. A nice surprise. Jones makes a massive difference, no surprise. DEs looked good, Christ, even Nnadi. Sneed had a few wobbles but I think improved, McDuffie is a stud. I think Williams might be a better athlete than Watson, but right now I'd take the latter. Tranquil looked a little lost at times, when he figures it out we can go another notch up.

- Offense was pretty ugly and I don't think there's a single reason. WRs not separating, Mahomes hesitant, OL was poor, bad play-calling, refs, silly mistakes. Just a bag of ass and one of those days.

- Refs were awful. Just incredible they singled out Taylor that blatantly after Collinsworth's comments. But also...

- OTs. Smith is exactly who he's always been, hopefully Heck can work his magic. Taylor just needs to figure this out. I think he will, but you can't pay $20m a year for a guy giving up those penalties.

- WRs. Good on Moore, promising in patches. I think Toney did OK but wilted, kinda expected given no real off-season. Marginal improvement on the last game maybe?

Frosty · 09-18-2023, 08:57 AM

Donovan Smith looks like he might have good hands. Maybe the Chiefs can borrow my Beavers' play from last Saturday.

Oregon State gets left tackle Joshua Gray a touchdown pic.twitter.com/2p5YzRg7Gm
— Ian Valentino (@NFLDraftStudy) September 16, 2023

Also, that challenge right before the Jags' final 4th down attempt was brilliant. I don't know if it was Reid's intention, but the challenge took a lot longer than a simple time out would have and gave the defense a chance to catch their breath.

scho63 · 09-18-2023, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense.

2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!.

3. Jawaan Taylor

4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today

5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again

6. Justin Watson was clutch again.

7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet

8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun.

1. Yes absolutely

2. Offense looked a LITTLE better

3. Dude is a mess- he pulled a Toney yesterday and nearly cost us the game.

4. Travis was probably a little nervous about the knee and he had too many drops but caught what counted, the TD

5. He is the best runnr we have followed by McKinnon. CEH is useless

6. Justin Watson is underrated and not appreciated here for some reason

7. Sloppy and not getting open enough.

8. James should have realized he was having sun issues and moved away - no need to field it.

**HemiEd** · 09-18-2023, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

You're getting pretty damn good at this, DC

Loved all of it, there are honestly sooo many positives to take from today

Jones triumphant return
Holding a loaded offense to 9 at home
Moore developing chemistry with 15 on a clutch drive
Karlaftis shows up again
FAU flashes yet again
Pacheco ripping off runs
3rd and 1? FIRST DOWN
Rice got valuable work
Even Nnadi was balling
Grey played his part
Chenal beasted
This speedy young secondary smothering fools

The score wasn't flashy, but the play on the field damn sure was

Yeah I was going to post about Nnadi for all the grief he gets on here

Coogs · 09-18-2023, 10:35 AM

Maybe it’s already been mentioned, but the 4 minute offense to close out the game was very nice!

KingPriest2 · 09-18-2023, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dolphinsneu

The entire AFC west except Denver is 1-1 right now. Who would have thought that coming into this year's regular season? I thought KC and LA would be 2-0 and LAR would start the season at 0-2

Umm

The entire AFC west besides Denver is 1-1? Lol Chargers are 0-2.

You thought LA would start 2-0? Lol

crispystl · 09-18-2023, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

I think the holding calls were still targeting him, I think because they couldn’t throw a flag for a false start or lining up wrong they were throwing holding flags as retaliation anyways. Jags were holding way more blatantly and being praised by the announcers for it.

On like the 3rd play of the game on of the offensive lineman freaking clotheslined Chris Jones right in front of the ref and nobody said shit. It was blatant as hell and had a huge effect on the play

Valiant · 09-18-2023, 11:35 AM

What is the overall record for teams with 3 turnovers and 10 plus penalties. Let alone 12.

Marcellus · 09-18-2023, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties.

This isn’t a do it today comment. It’s a future can’t fix himself comment.

Let me help you out here, Jawaan didn't start playing football in the NFL this season, he will figure it out.

Your take on this is a massive overreaction.

Marcellus · 09-18-2023, 11:41 AM

Also, how the **** was that not OPI when the receiver literally tackled Cook? Holy shit was a ridiculous non call.

DenverChief · 09-18-2023, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Let me help you out here, Jawaan didn't start playing football in the NFL this season, he will figure it out.

Your take on this is a massive overreaction.

My “take” was a question. Not a statement, a “take” or any other factual comment. It was designed to spur conversation not critique. You are having a massive over reaction to a question.

Regardless of how long he has been playing …the NFL could decide it’s not right and make the Chiefs lives miserable with penalties. The question was if an adjustment couldn’t be made acceptably (by the NFL) what do we do? That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading into things.

09-17-2023, 03:33 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023 1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense. 1.5 Sacks, 2 QB Hits and 1 Pass Defensed. FAU, Danna and Karlaftis showed up huge in QB sacks and pressures. Lawrence was very uncomfortable in the pocket on many drives. Chenal showed up clutch on a few plays most notably not being fooled by the screen pass on 2nd and ten that led to the third and long before Jax turned the ball over on downs. 2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!. On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard. Toney and Moore atoned for their drops 5/5 for 35 yards and 3/4 for 70 yards and TD respectively. The Jax defense is a good defense, while we didn't play perfect and still have A LOT of room for improvement we definitely ironed out some of the more fixable problems. 3. Jawaan Taylor - this is going to be an ongoing issue with the refs I'm afraid - PTW seemed solid in relief. I'm not sure what to do here bench him and play PTW? Try and trade him? I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties. 4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis. 5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again 12 Carries for 70 Yards and 5.8 yd average. I love his running style and that 31 yard rip was a thing of beauty. I just wish he could have put it over the goal at the end of the game for a nice cherry on top of his running day. 6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part. 7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet - not sure if it's still knocking the rust off of the offseason or what. I would expect next week we will see a much more crisp game with our offense. This would have technically been week 1 this week. 8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.
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09-18-2023, 12:23 AM	#80
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-269600	I thought: - Defense was excellent, obviously. A nice surprise. Jones makes a massive difference, no surprise. DEs looked good, Christ, even Nnadi. Sneed had a few wobbles but I think improved, McDuffie is a stud. I think Williams might be a better athlete than Watson, but right now I'd take the latter. Tranquil looked a little lost at times, when he figures it out we can go another notch up. - Offense was pretty ugly and I don't think there's a single reason. WRs not separating, Mahomes hesitant, OL was poor, bad play-calling, refs, silly mistakes. Just a bag of ass and one of those days. - Refs were awful. Just incredible they singled out Taylor that blatantly after Collinsworth's comments. But also... - OTs. Smith is exactly who he's always been, hopefully Heck can work his magic. Taylor just needs to figure this out. I think he will, but you can't pay $20m a year for a guy giving up those penalties. - WRs. Good on Moore, promising in patches. I think Toney did OK but wilted, kinda expected given no real off-season. Marginal improvement on the last game maybe?
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09-18-2023, 08:57 AM	#81
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Washington Casino cash: $3328243	Donovan Smith looks like he might have good hands. Maybe the Chiefs can borrow my Beavers' play from last Saturday. Oregon State gets left tackle Joshua Gray a touchdown pic.twitter.com/2p5YzRg7Gm — Ian Valentino (@NFLDraftStudy) September 16, 2023 Also, that challenge right before the Jags' final 4th down attempt was brilliant. I don't know if it was Reid's intention, but the challenge took a lot longer than a simple time out would have and gave the defense a chance to catch their breath.
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