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Old 12-10-2023, 09:46 PM  
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Offsides reality

Looking at the offsides on Toney and the “Let them play” mentality a few things stick out.

1. He was offsides and like it or not, that is inexcusable on his part. Toney should never line up offsides…….ever. That’s a Pee Wee league type of mistake. He didn’t just start playing football this year. Pre snap penalties are the worst because they are completely preventable. He should have never left it up to a ref to decide one way or another, especially with the quality of reffing league wide lately.

2. I get the “Let them play” mindset and not letting a questionable call impact a game. But it can’t be “Let them play” when convenient and when not calls should be made. Look at the SB when KC benefited from a penalty that essentially sealed the game. Had the refs swallowed the whistle like what was wanted today KC might well have lost the SB. We benefited from that penalty. But today we want to yell at the clouds because it was called. Both times the penalty was called, just this time it went against KC.

3. Even after the penalty they still had time to pick up the yards and score a TD and is systemic of how the offense has played for large portions of the year. This team has a championship caliber defense, but the offense is not what we all expect. That might mean an early exit this year. Simply put if the offense hasn’t figured it out by now I question whether they will.

It is what it is.
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Old 12-10-2023, 11:29 PM   #31
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Old 12-10-2023, 11:37 PM   #32
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Just got home and watched the replay. Ok, you are going to call Toney offsides then how can you miss the blatant illegal contact on the same play against Toney at 10 yards by two Bills after calling it on Watson the series before.
NFL officials call everything they see but only see what they want.

NFL officials are part-timers for a reason. Useless assholes.
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Old 12-10-2023, 11:55 PM   #33
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Old 12-11-2023, 12:19 AM   #34
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I'm more frustrated that it cost us an awesome highlight by kelce. It's like the superbowl superman drop. Should be an all time nfl highlight.
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Old 12-11-2023, 12:28 AM   #35
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It was a penalty. My problem is Von Miller clearly had a penalty too. Which conveniently wasn’t called. It’s the same ref with the same eyes.
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Old 12-11-2023, 02:39 AM   #36
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Posting this in all the threads about bad calls this week. Sorry in advance for Q.

Every time a shitty call or no-call is made, we hear the same "if we would've scored more points, it wouldn't have come down to the refs." Last week, we would've been in the red zone if not for a terrible no-call. This week, we would've had a touchdown if not for the terrible call. Who's to say that other big plays wouldn't have been totally wiped off by refs? Nowadays, every play is like the punt returns of a few years back. Any big return and you expected a "block in the back, receiving team" to take it off the board.

**** the refs.
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Old 12-11-2023, 03:03 AM   #37
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Reality is Von Miller was offsides on the next play. It was the same side if the field too.

Fishy, very fishy.
Why would Humphrey be that far from the line of scrimmage? That's crap, need better photo
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Old 12-11-2023, 07:57 AM   #38
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Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?

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Old 12-11-2023, 08:01 AM   #39
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:02 AM   #40
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Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?


Honestly if they didnt have toney they could have got taylor again.


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Old 12-11-2023, 08:08 AM   #41
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Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?

Looking at that photo it looks like neither of our tackles was on the line of scrimmage. Much as I hated the result we deserved that call. I also believe Miller should have been called off sides on the next play. Thay's the problem this year; You never know when the officials are going to call a penalty. There's no consistency.
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:08 AM   #42
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Reality is Von Miller was offsides on the next play. It was the same side if the field too.

Fishy, very fishy.
Yep saw that too
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:09 AM   #43
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They already had a target, Cris Collinsworth basically ruined the season.
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:16 AM   #44
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Looking at that photo it looks like neither of our tackles was on the line of scrimmage. Much as I hated the result we deserved that call. I also believe Miller should have been called off sides on the next play. Thay's the problem this year; You never know when the officials are going to call a penalty. There's no consistency.
That is the key, it's like the go-to, "there's a hold on every play", it's when they choose to enforce it that's causing people to get pissed and call the league rigged.
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:24 AM   #45
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Again, watch the entire play. Toney was absolutely mugged at 10 yard by two Bills, after Watson was called the series before. Should have been illegal contact and offsetting as well. These calls were made or it ignored by the same two officials who didn't call Von Miller offside and the one who called illegal contact on Watson. Just be ****ing consistent.
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