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Old 03-15-2023, 08:19 PM  
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Old 12-20-2023, 10:51 AM   #736
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Huh? That was Trey Smith constantly getting wrecked, not Taylor.
This.

A majority of the times that Taylor gives up a sack or a pressure it's because Mahomes drops too far back. It is what it is because he's done that his entire career but it still makes it hard for the OTs.
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Old 12-20-2023, 10:56 AM   #737
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HUH?

You do know that Taylor is hitting our cap this season for only $5.825M while OBJ is hitting Bengals cap for $10.398M? Think your mixed up a little.

It was Chris Jones holdout ass that kept us from not signing a WR not Taylor's $5.825M Cap hit.
Forgive King, he is absolutely ****ing clueless when it comes to this shit, hence why he's conveniently always operating in hindsight talking about what we "should've" done.
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Old 12-20-2023, 11:03 AM   #738
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HUH?

You do know that Taylor is hitting our cap this season for only $5.825M while OBJ is hitting Bengals cap for $10.398M? Think your mixed up a little.

It was Chris Jones holdout ass that kept us from not signing a WR not Taylor's $5.825M Cap hit.
For all intents and purposes none of these things kept us from signing a WR. We could have signed one and structured the deal to still be under the cap if we wanted to at any time. I mean, Hopkins has a 3 mil cap hit this year. There's 100% chance we could have found a way to make that cap hit work if we wanted to.

And our cap hit went down from Chris Jones deal so no, he for sure didn't keep us from signing anyone.
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Old 12-20-2023, 11:03 AM   #739
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Forgive King, he is absolutely ****ing clueless when it comes to this shit, hence why he's conveniently always operating in hindsight talking about what we "should've" done.
Oh you're back. Hey bud welcome back!
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For all intents and purposes none of these things kept us from signing a WR. We could have signed one and structured the deal to still be under the cap if we wanted to at any time. I mean, Hopkins has a 3 mil cap hit this year. There's 100% chance we could have found a way to make that cap hit work if we wanted to.

And our cap hit went down from Chris Jones deal so no, he for sure didn't keep us from signing anyone.
And it's almost like the decision wasn't exclusively Veach's. Hopkins had a choice in this as well.
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For all intents and purposes none of these things kept us from signing a WR. We could have signed one and structured the deal to still be under the cap if we wanted to at any time. I mean, Hopkins has a 3 mil cap hit this year. There's 100% chance we could have found a way to make that cap hit work if we wanted to.

And our cap hit went down from Chris Jones deal so no, he for sure didn't keep us from signing anyone.
THe whole Jones saga wasn't finished until Dhop had already signed.
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THe whole Jones saga wasn't finished until Dhop had already signed.
Stop letting your facts get in the way of his hindsight GMing.
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And it's almost like the decision wasn't exclusively Veach's. Hopkins had a choice in this as well.
Dude did visits with the Patriots and Titans and didn't sign for a month after. That tells me we weren't anywhere near his ball park when it comes to contract offers.
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Dude did visits with the Patriots and Titans and didn't sign for a month after. That tells me we weren't anywhere near his ball park when it comes to contract offers.
Because of Chris Jones and his holdout.
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THe whole Jones saga wasn't finished until Dhop had already signed.
And we could have still signed DHop and adjusted Chris Jones contract accordingly. Or restructure Mahomes for a couple million and sign DHop without interfering with Chris Jones negotiations. Or sign DHop with available cap space and back load his deal to next year.

There's always options.
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And we could have still signed DHop and adjusted Chris Jones contract accordingly. Or restructure Mahomes for a couple million and sign DHop without interfering with Chris Jones negotiations. Or sign DHop with available cap space and back load his deal to next year.

There's always options.
Andy and Brett told us in February that they thought Toney was WR1 and Skyy would be much better this year.

There's your answer
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Andy and Brett told us in February that they thought Toney was WR1 and Skyy would be much better this year.

There's your answer
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And we could have still signed DHop and adjusted Chris Jones contract accordingly. Or restructure Mahomes for a couple million and sign DHop without interfering with Chris Jones negotiations. Or sign DHop with available cap space and back load his deal to next year.

There's always options.
They had to have redone Pat's deal by a certain date, which had already passed IIRC.

Backloading it would have been the way to have done it, but I would guess they didn't wanna pay that. I dunno.
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Thinking Toney could even play enough to be a number 1 option is sickening
Like Skyy, he must be showing something in practice everyday.

I refuse to believe they’re putting out the same product day-in and day-out that they’re giving us on game day and still being relied on so heavily..
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