It's like looking into the past

[O.city]

So watching these teams like the Dolphins that lose, then hearing the fans talking about "we need a difference maker at Tight End. We can't just throw to Hill and Waddle."

Or the Cowboys "We just need to get off to a better start, or get a difference coach in here".

It's the QB guys. The NFL is the haves and the have nots and when you are a have not......I don't know what to tell you.

I fell like it's the 90's and we're talking about the Chiefs.

[jerryaldini]

Yeah it is. Dolphins fans have really soured on Tua. They will play him on his 5th year option, then looking at another rebuild. Dak will be 31 next season.

It's familiar. Looking at the Dolphins winless playoff stretch I remembered we actually had two of those. From 70 through 90 and 94 through 14. That's crazy. But now we are on a 6 year run of winning every year. Because Mahomes.

[RunKC]

Crazy to me that teams still want instant results instead of doing the Packers plan. Draft a QB with a high ceiling and sit him for at least one year to learn from a vet QB and solid coaches.

Rodgers, Mahomes and Love were wild horses with technical flaws but high ceilings when they were drafted. Rodgers held the ball near his ear when he threw at Cal, Mahomes footwork needed work and Love had consistency issues from the mental side of the game.

Zach Wilson and Jordan Love are good case studies. Both similar types of prospects that had high potential and could make the throws. Difference is one went to sit and learn in a good environment and the other was deemed the savior immediately with high expectations to start in a shit environment the moment he stepped in the building which ruined his confidence.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by O.city

So watching these teams like the Dolphins that lose, then hearing the fans talking about "we need a difference maker at Tight End. We can't just throw to Hill and Waddle."

Or the Cowboys "We just need to get off to a better start, or get a difference coach in here".

It's the QB guys. The NFL is the haves and the have nots and when you are a have not......I don't know what to tell you.

I fell like it's the 90's and we're talking about the Chiefs.

And the 2000's, and the 2010's

[O.city]

I don't really think you have to sit the guy to learn. It's more about the situation around him and who's doing what.

Playing to learn is fine, I actually think it's about the only way to learn in the end.

[digger]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Because Mahomes.

Say it loud, say it proud:


Because Mahomes.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Crazy to me that teams still want instant results instead of doing the Packers plan. Draft a QB with a high ceiling and sit him for at least one year to learn from a vet QB and solid coaches.

Rodgers, Mahomes and Love were wild horses with technical flaws but high ceilings when they were drafted. Rodgers held the ball near his ear when he threw at Cal, Mahomes footwork needed work and Love had consistency issues from the mental side of the game.

Zach Wilson and Jordan Love are good case studies. Both similar types of prospects that had high potential and could make the throws. Difference is one went to sit and learn in a good environment and the other was deemed the savior immediately with high expectations to start in a shit environment the moment he stepped in the building which ruined his confidence.

Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.

And are we sold on Jordan Love? Because he's been up and down all season and the Cowgirls just farded and shidid their pants yesterday.

[wazu]

Dak's pretty good. But Mike McCarthy has a long track record of going nowhere in the playoffs even when he had a first-ballot Hall of Famer in his prime.

[Hammock Parties]

Tua is what we would have got if we had stuck with Alex after 2017.

And I shudder to think what this place would be like in 2018 if that had happened.

MUH DEFENSE!!!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

And the 2000's, and the 2010's

Alex Smith enters the chat.


Hell, we have the answer at QB and GDTs are still filled every week with cries of running the ball and "establish the run".

At the same time though, Mahomeses don't grow on trees, so do you overpay a guy who will at least get you to the playoffs and maybe win a playoff game or do you risk going to the franchise QB well over and over for years/decades on end. And then you have coaches and situations that are just toxic for young QBs where they may never have a chance.

How fans who have watched their team over decades can't figure it out and still get their hopes far too high for Dak or Tua or any number of mediocre QBs who put up good numbers against all the shit and then flop in the postseason.... got me.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.

But how often does a Stroud happen? He should have been the first pick. If you don't have a top 5 pick, then what?

[KCJake]

I agree. It does come down to the QB. Which is why I just can't wrap my head around the Ravens having playoff success with Lamar.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by KCJake

I agree. It does come down to the QB. Which is why I just can't wrap my head around the Ravens having playoff success with Lamar.

He's dropping dimes this year, though. I'm telling you, different QB.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

But how often does a Stroud happen? He should have been the first pick. If you don't have a top 5 pick, then what?

Trade up.

Don't draft guys who don't have the tools to do it.