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Old 01-15-2024, 09:43 AM  
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It's like looking into the past

So watching these teams like the Dolphins that lose, then hearing the fans talking about "we need a difference maker at Tight End. We can't just throw to Hill and Waddle."

Or the Cowboys "We just need to get off to a better start, or get a difference coach in here".

It's the QB guys. The NFL is the haves and the have nots and when you are a have not......I don't know what to tell you.

I fell like it's the 90's and we're talking about the Chiefs.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:16 AM   #16
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Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.
It could just be Wilsoj is pure shit
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:17 AM   #17
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He's dropping dimes this year, though. I'm telling you, different QB.
It's sadly true...plus 7 Nation Army Lamar is even more lethal
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:17 AM   #18
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:17 AM   #19
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Yeah, Wilson isn't good, but he also went to a dysfunctional situation. The Jets are keeping that merry band of idiots together for some reason.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:18 AM   #20
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Alex Smith, Dak, Herbert. Goff(just wait), Tua, Carr, Jimmy G, etc.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:20 AM   #21
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If the stars align, it can work. But really....eventually you're gonna run into a top QB in the playoffs and it's just a hold on to your ass thing.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:22 AM   #22
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I don't really think you have to sit the guy to learn. It's more about the situation around him and who's doing what.

Playing to learn is fine, I actually think it's about the only way to learn in the end.

That sounds nice but if you are going to play him to learn and improve but not given them the time to actually do that then you still aren’t doing it right. Teams abandon QBs so quick but sometimes it’s hard to know which ones to stick with.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:23 AM   #23
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That sounds nice but if you are going to play him to learn and improve but not given them the time to actually do that then you still aren’t doing it right. Teams abandon QBs so quick.
Sure....but the truth is....if they don't show something they probably aren't it then anyway.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:24 AM   #24
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:32 AM   #25
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If you pick the wrong one and build around him...you cap your ceiling. Like the Dolphins have done or the Cowboys.

Now your option is to blow it up, start over, but you're probably getting fired if you do that. It's easy to sell "hey we won double digit games, we're close".
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:35 AM   #26
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He's dropping dimes this year, though. I'm telling you, different QB.
He's regressing as the season has worn on. 4 of his last 7 games he has had a completion percentage under 60% and he's played one good game against a stellar defense. If a team can get a lead on Baltimore and force Lamar to have to throw the ball to win, they will get beat.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:40 AM   #27
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:42 AM   #28
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If you have a subpar QB, you better buy/build a hell of a defense and surround him with as many weapons as you can and pray. Then, dump his ass when the bill comes due after his rookie contract. You should only pay a guy you know is a true franchise QB that can get you there. Unfortunately, NFL owners will hang onto less than that to fill seats.
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Trade up.

Don't draft guys who don't have the tools to do it.
Well the Packers literally drafted Rodgers and Love in the 20's.
There are guys with higher ceiling and tools that can be developed in time in the right situation.

Will Levis stands out as one of those types of guys. Is he really that much different than Jordan Love as a prospect?
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Well the Packers literally drafted Rodgers and Love in the 20's.
There are guys with higher ceiling and tools that can be developed in time in the right situation.

Will Levis stands out as one of those types of guys. Is he really that much different than Jordan Love as a prospect?
That's one of the reasons I look at Rattler and think he should be picked in round 1. Sure, maybe he isn't quite mentally ready but he has all the talent to be a top-tier QB. Sit him a year and teach him and then let him work. Too many teams rushing guys out there to save the day. Most aren't ready.
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