Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DJ's left nut]

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

[Pepe Silvia]

Brandon Perna is having another meltdown. Second year in a row that he insists that Mahomes is leaving KC in two years.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I never quite understood the Raven's mindset coming into the game. Like why where they so chippy towards the Chiefs? They are the one seed. We are in their house. Act like it. Instead they went all thug-like acting as if this Chiefs team is a house of cards and would crumble if you just got though with it.

I think it was a completely wrong approach.

It's like deep down they were insecure about playoff Lamar reappearing, so they tried to bully their way into a blowout.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven

As opposed to...every other year...where they are hard to beat and go to the AFCCG? When were they ever easy to beat? Just checking...

Hard to beat every year, but still want him to avoid turnovers in these big pressure games. He had some turnovers against Cincy, Tampa, & Niners that put the team in a very rough spot each time.

If he can pretty much eliminate those big mistakes, KC will have a strong chance in the 4th quarter of every Playoff game. It's all we can ask for. In the last 6 Playoff games, he has one turnover on a flukey play where the ball slipped out of his hand while trying to throw it against the Bengals. Other than that, he has done a great job protecting the ball the last 2 years in the Playoffs. Keep it up Patrick.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

As long as they were ahead by two scores they were not going to do a damn thing to risk it.

And when the Ravens got within a play of having a whiff of tying the game, they dialed up the dagger.

Andy won plenty of games in Philly that way. Hell, with Alex.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Okay, I'll respond to this one; I know there's a couple others that responded to my post, but if I quote them all, this post will be too long.


I don't recall ever saying much about holds in this game; they happen and don't get flagged all the time, and since they made that modification to how they were going to call it it's gotten worse. They missed some holding calls. They didn't really affect the game, so whatever.

The first holding call vs. Smith was not a great call, but the 2nd one was just not holding. But again, that shit happens. didn't affect the outcome really.

The headbutt I get why they called it, just probably should've been a double foul and off-setting. Travis was yapping his ass off all game and helped instigate that shit. Now, I doubt Travis planned it that way (I believe he was just really fired up), but he didn't help the situation. It's a playoff game and I would've probably just flagged both players.

The Flowers thing I've already addressed twice. It was a legit flag.

I don't know which one was Connors/Likely. As it goes to DPI, the refs effed that up several times during the game, going both ways, iirc. I mentioned in my original post that at least twice flags should've been thrown against KC. And it doesn't matter if it was a bad decision to throw into triple coverage or if you think the ball was underthrown. That's not how the rule is written. The fact is that the ball was in the air and was going to come down pretty close to the BAL WR when a KC DB (number started with a 2) ran OVER the WR well before the ball was intercepted. If that situation was reversed, and that was a KC WR that got freight trained, you'd all be screaming "DPI!!! DPI!!!! DPI!!!!"

It's basically the same thing as when MVS got run over vs. GB(?) earlier in the season. That was DPI, period. If the defender runs the **** over the receiver before the ball gets there, it's DPI, period. Who was around the play, and whether you think the ball was underthrown/overthrown/you don't think the WR could catch it, or what color their jersey was, has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The Roquan thing. Yeah, he was too aggressive, no doubt. but it's a playoff game, and extra nonsense happens. That was a flag that seemed a little much for the situation. Flag him for encroachment or whatever, but it didn't need to be a 15-yarder, again imo.


I don't know what you're talking about with the kicker thing, sorry. Must've missed that, I guess.



Bottom line, I hate it when refs insert themselves into games. Too often it leads to events that seem to steer the game. It's to the point now that every time a great/exciting play happens, we can't even just be excited about it; first we have to wait to make sure there isn't a ****ing flag. And then we have to watch the replay to see if there should've been a goddamned flag.

And then there's the dipsticks that basically just wait and hope that there is a flag, to help their team gain an advantage, which is more utter BS, imo. Flags suck. And I really wish there were a lot less of them overall.

I'll ALWAYS be in favor of less flags, and in favor of letting the teams/players decide who wins over the refs. That's just my position on it. Sorry, not sorry.

You are reeruned...

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You are reeruned...

Lol, hilarious coming from you, bud.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Don't make the big mistake, just punt, the D has it.-Chiefs in the second half.

Thing is the Chiefs were right but we've seen it go terribly wrong all too often. It gives your opponent momentum and the door can get blown open quickly. (Thankfully Sneed and Co slammed it shut.)

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia

Brandon Perna is having another meltdown. Second year in a row that he insists that Mahomes is leaving KC in two years.

Who the **** is Brandon Perna?

[Sassy Squatch]

Travis absolutely instigated on purpose, and Van Noy took the obvious bait. He was laughing his ass off after the flag got thrown. Pretty obvious the Ravens came into the game hoping to keep a bully mentality and it blew up spectacularly in their faces when the Chiefs smashed them right back and sent them reeling.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Who the **** is Brandon Perna?

Crybaby Broncos fanboy that everyone watches on you tube. Every time the Chiefs go to the SB he makes a cryptic comment about Mahomes leaving KC, he has said it the past two seasons. Its some kind of desperate troll, but he keeps saying it like he knows something we don't.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Don't make the big mistake, just punt, the D has it.-Chiefs in the second half.

Thing is the Chiefs were right but we've seen it go terribly wrong all too often. It gives your opponent momentum and the door can get blown open quickly. (Thankfully Sneed and Co slammed it shut.)

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

You're the same dumbass that believes Mahomes should be throwing 40-50 passes per game and Richie James was going to be our breakout WR. For someone who obsesses over analytics you sure seem to get a lot of things wrong.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

Or…. Your take is just wrong.


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[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Travis absolutely instigated on purpose, and Van Noy took the obvious bait. He was laughing his ass off after the flag got thrown. Pretty obvious the Ravens came into the game hoping to keep a bully mentality and it blew up spectacularly in their faces when the Chiefs smashed them right back and sent them reeling.

**** you baltimore!

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

You're the same dumbass that believes Mahomes should be throwing 40-50 passes per game and Richie James was going to be our breakout WR. For someone who obsesses over analytics you sure seem to get a lot of things wrong.

The Chiefs won so therefore there is nothing they did in the game that was a mistake.