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Old 12-19-2024, 01:00 PM  
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Look at the year Xavier Worthy could be having
Posted one of these in another thread, felt like it deserved it's own.
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Old 12-19-2024, 01:45 PM   #16
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I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting. After today, I'm not sure this is the case. Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball? Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow. Is it a Mahomes issue? Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
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PMII needs some fresh eyes. Maybe bring in someone like John Beck (QB guru) to get an outside opinion. Nothing against PMII's current private coach, Jeff Christensen. But sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can help with the yips or other issues.
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Old 12-19-2024, 01:49 PM   #17
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Let’s try having a handful of consistent games with Andrew Wylie or OBJ level tackle play and then reassess if Mahomes deep ball continues to be refried ass after that time.
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Old 12-19-2024, 01:50 PM   #18
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Yikes

Russell Wilson nails most of those throws tbh
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Old 12-19-2024, 01:51 PM   #19
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The play beginning at .20 in the video is what makes me cringe (and from the naked eye, happens several times a game). REALLY clean pocket, Pat drops his eyes early, starts to scramble for no reason at all, doesn't reset his base, and misses deep/out of bounds to Worthy.

Just playing too fast at times. The o-line play hasn't helped this, and the lack of trust in his receivers being where he expects them to be, is the elephant in the room.

He'll get it corrected.
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Old 12-19-2024, 01:57 PM   #20
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Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

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Old 12-19-2024, 02:01 PM   #21
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Yikes

Elvis Grbac in 2000 nails most of those throws tbh
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Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

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Any QB ever is not as good without star players

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Old 12-19-2024, 02:09 PM   #23
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I don't care if he's superman back there... if I QB gets hit often enough, its inevitable that he's going to quicken his pace and get "happy feet"

Dude is a straight up killer and we only have one loss when both of our tackles are playing like dogshit and more often than not, he's got less than 2 seconds to make a decision.
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Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

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Who just happened go beat his main rivals In their own buildings and then faced the best team in the NFC on route to winning the superbowl? Yes I'll take "Mr average" thank you
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Our quarterback has been put on the ground more than some running backs this year.

You think Eli Manning beat Brady twice because he was the better quarterback? That Giants pass rush hounded Brady relentlessly and they couldn't protect him.

I don't give a **** who you put back there. If he's gotta even think that there's gonna be a free rusher, then his mind is on who is going to **** this play up on the o line, and not on reading the defense and finding the open guy.

Moreover, if his head coach is going to refuse to ease that pressure with the run threat, and just call strings of passes to let these guys practice pinning their ears back, them the results aren't going to be good.
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Mahomes has been brutal this year.

A lot of these throws are layups and he’s not even close.
Yeah. Only one I excuse is Denver game, pretty sure he was hurt that day. Not a Mahomes like pass at all

The others are mainly straight up on Pat
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Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

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Didnt he win 2 super bowls and a mvp without Hill?
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Old 12-19-2024, 02:24 PM   #28
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Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

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He was elite in 2022 and his WR1 was JuJu
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As for folks talking about Pat's deep ball. He hit one in a critical moment to Sammy to send us to the superbowl. Then hit a huge one to Tyreek to win the said superbowl. Hit a massive one to MVS to beat the Ravens and go to the superbowl. Then in the superbowl threw a huge one to Hardman to get the team into the ten yard line before Pacheco fumbled. Ya'll see a pattern? In critical moments he's been able to do it.

This year some of the deep balls failing have been on him, Worthy or the line. The Atlanta one? On Pat. The Buffalo one? On Worthy. The Raiders one? On the O-line. It's a mixture of things that they need to clean up. With Hollywood back now hopefully we'll see an improvement in that department as we head into the playoffs. Because Lord knows I expect him and Worthy to burn some secondaries and create more opportunities for Pat to launch it. Let's just pray they start connecting. We've seen proof that Pat can get it done.
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I really think he may need to try and work with some different QB coaches this offseason.

Who does Josh Allen work with? Whoever that is has done wonders with Allen’s mechanics.

The fundmentals have just gotten sloppy. And have slowly but steadily declined over the last couple years.

Seems like he might need someone outside of his core “camp” to come in and give him a fresh perspective and clean things up.
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