Does Phase 3 of the Mahomes era start tomorrow?

[Chiefspants]

Phase 1: Legion of Zoom

2018-2021:

1 Super Bowl Championship
1 MVP
1 Super Bowl MVP
2 AFC Championships
4 AFC Championship Appearances

Phase 2: Defense + Mahomes Wins Championships

2022-2024:

2 Super Bowl Championships
1 MVP
2 Super Bowl MVP’s
3 AFC Championships
3 AFC Championship Appearances

Phase 3: 2025-?

In Phase 1 and the Proposed Phase 2 (credit to irafreak for the name) Mahomes has made the AFC Championship in all 7 seasons he’s started and generally been regarded as one of the greatest who have ever taken the field.

Going into next year, Xavier Worthy showed he’s ready to be a deep threat and Rashee Rice is coming back after being the top wide receiver in the league before his injury. We also need a left tackle, may be letting Smith and Bolton go, will need to reckon with the fact that those we drafted to start Phase 2 need second contacts, and perhaps most importantly, may be saying goodbye to Travis Kelce.

Does Phase 3 start tomorrow?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

If only teams still defended Mahomes like they did in 2018/2019. Unfortunately, the league has changed. Not just our personnel.

Plus, he had a prime Kelce back then.

Other teams face those two high safety defenses yet still are able to generate explosive/20+ yard plays with more consistency than the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have become a slow, plodding offense that only scored 30+ points once this season, despite having Mahomes in the prime of his career.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

They may have the best GM in football, and I say that thinking Veach is top 3.

He is the best GM in football. I agree, I like Veach a lot, but Roseman is top of the tree

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

If only teams still defended Mahomes like they did in 2018/2019. Unfortunately, the league has changed. Not just our personnel.

Plus, he had a prime Kelce back then.

I've been wondering about the 2022 MVP Season.

Is it possible that a Prime Kelce was the key for making that style of offense work?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

I think that was the plan with signing Hollywood and drafting Worthy (who does look awesome).

Unfortunately, prime Travis Kelces and prime Tyreek Hills don’t grow on trees.

And I promise you Mahomes would take Eric Fisher & Orlando Brown in a heartbeat compared to the 5 guys that were blocking for him at Left Tackle the last two years.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Other teams face those two high safety defenses yet still are able to generate explosive/20+ yard plays with more consistency than the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have become a slow, plodding offense that only scored 30+ points once this season, despite having Mahomes in the prime of his career.

Agreed, the more I think about it, Kelce really was the juice to those high scoring years, like how Gronkowski really opened things up for Brady's later Patriot/Tampa offenses. We need to get a premier pass catching TE again who is fast. We saw it all year when good TE's would tear up the Chiefs defense

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by JPH83

He is the best GM in football. I agree, I like Veach a lot, but Roseman is top of the tree

The thing I like about Roseman is that he isn’t afraid to be uber aggressive and will take big ass swings…Brown, Saquon, etc.

I guarantee he tries to trade for Garrett this offseason too.

[Fishels]

Whatever phase gives us another chance for a threepeatn

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Agreed, the more I think about it, Kelce really was the juice to those high scoring years, like how Gronkowski really opened things up for Brady's later Patriot/Tampa offenses. We need to get a premier pass catching TE again who is fast. We saw it all year when good TE's would tear up the Chiefs defense

Let’s see what we have in Wiley next year.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Phase 3 should be get back to Phase 1.

It's less fun to watch but we were probably a better team in Phase 2. Just look at the Eagles tonight with the #1 defense. Look at what Tom Brady did with top defenses. But they definitely need to be more explosive on offense.

[BWillie]

Phase 3: Fish, avocados, kale and treadmills

[Dante84]

If I’m the Bills, I push my entire stack into replicating the Tampa and Philly plan.

4-5 great pass rushers that don’t require you to blitz. Its the only two times Pat has really looked like shit in the playoffs.

If I’m the Chiefs, I load up on OL for the same reason.

[BlackOp]

I hope phase three starts...the 2024 iteration of the Chiefs was one of the most boring seasons I can remember. The highlight was a blocked Denver FG in a game where they mustered 16 points.

The most dynamic QB has been neutered into a slow prodding, "watching paint dry" offense...doing just enough to squeak by on a weekly basis. I missed a few games this year and didn't even bother to rewatch them.

In the end...it is just entertainment and this current product, while winning, is not very interesting or compelling. It's a stark contrast to the Hill years...

If the Mahomes' peak years are going to be them just slodging along during the regular season...seemingly uninterested in showing anything but the very least necessary...I'll just watch the highlights until the post-season.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

The only way we can go back to a legion of Zoom would be Rice coming back healthy and us spending some real money on a left tackle and a Sammy Watkins to give us three elite receiving threats.

Not sure we keep McDuffie or Bolton in that reality.

We should not keep and give Bolton a big contract. He's fantastic at stopping the run he just cant cover a TE or a RB in the flat. We need to spend the money and or picks on offense.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Dante84

If I’m the Bills, I push my entire stack into replicating the Tampa and Philly plan.

4-5 great pass rushers that don’t require you to blitz. Its the only two times Pat has really looked like shit in the playoffs.

If I’m the Chiefs, I load up on OL for the same reason.

Everyone wants that, it’s just nearly impossible to build. It’s like getting an elite LT or elite QB

A defense like that is priceless

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Dante84

If I’m the Bills, I push my entire stack into replicating the Tampa and Philly plan.

4-5 great pass rushers that don’t require you to blitz. Its the only two times Pat has really looked like shit in the playoffs.

If I’m the Chiefs, I load up on OL for the same reason.

Okay do I live in crazy-ville?

The Eagles did not have 4-5 great pass rushers. They had 1, maybe 2. We talked about this for 2 weeks straight.