Another teacher/pupil sex story? - Page 6

Kclee · 03-01-2005, 09:48 AM

How many does that make now?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...sex_teacher_dc

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A California high school teacher was arraigned on Monday at a Sacramento court accused of having sex with a student in a car as her two-year child was strapped into the back seat.

Margaret De Barraicua, 30, a teacher trainee, was charged with four counts of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, a 16-year-old student. The married woman was caught having sex in the late afternoon last week in what was apparently a consensual agreement, officials said.

"We received a call about a suspicious parked vehicle at a school here in Sacramento," said local police spokesman Justin Risley. "They got there and observed two people, windows-steamed-up type of thing."

"They found them to be partially clothed and engaging in what appeared to be sexual intercourse."

Her two-year old son was strapped by a seat belt in the back of the car during the time, he said.

**Rain Man** · 03-01-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kclee

Hey, thats Rainman and not a cripple. (I think he just has a rather large butt.) Don't stare or comment on it, he'll get a complex. And that girl is 19.

Your noticing of my buttocks is made even more disturbing by the fact that you apparently just pantsed a teenage boy.

patteeu · 03-01-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

The key word is "willing". Again, it may not relate to these cases, but I'd hardly call the victim of sexual abuse "willing". Many experts also believe that the ones that claim to be "willing" are incapable of understanding all of the underlying issues of such a relationship.

Please don't try to sell me on the idea that you see no difference between voluntary behavior (even on the part of a child who may not possess the ability to offer full, adult-level consent when it comes to sexual relationships) and involuntary behavior. If you do take that position then please don't ever post that you think a child should be held accountable for any of their actions no matter how heinous.

BTW, the post you responded to never even mentioned children, but it did attempt to illustrate the point that studies that find correlations between two activities don't necessarily show causal relationships between them.

Kclee · 03-01-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Your noticing of my buttocks is made even more disturbing by the fact that you apparently just pantsed a teenage boy.

Don't judge me!

jspchief · 03-01-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Please don't try to sell me on the idea that you see no difference between voluntary behavior (even on the part of a child who may not possess the ability to offer full, adult-level consent when it comes to sexual relationships) and involuntary behavior. If you do take that position then please don't ever post that you think a child should be held accountable for any of their actions no matter how heinous.

BTW, the post you responded to never even mentioned children, but it did attempt to illustrate the point that studies that find correlations between two activities don't necessarily show causal relationships between them.

What? It was in reference to the stats that show that sexually abused boys have higher risk of drug abuse among other things. Sexual abuse of a child does not have two willing participants.

Calcountry · 03-01-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Neither is off-limits as a source of humor for me. If someone else objects to making light of such things, hey that's their deal. They probably wouldn't enjoy hanging out with me in a bar, though.

Just because I'm willing to make a joke concerning a topic doesn't mean I don't believe the topic to be a serious one... nor do I condone the actions of any wrongdoer that may be involved in said topic.

Is there anything that is off limits as a sourse of humor for you?

Very sincerely curious?

picasso · 03-01-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso

If it was consentual it's not molestation.

AT THE AGE OF 16!! (Two years later then they can go die for their country.)
Adolescents can think for themselves and make decisions. They are not mindless idiot spawn. But they aren't responsible enough to make this type of a decision though. Many of them have sex anyway without guidance and without consent and nobody goes to jail because it is minor sexual behavior. Still there could come a baby. That is where the responsibility falls on the adult in this case. It's about responsibility not about perverted sexual deviency. And it shouldn't be labeled criminally as molestation or rape unless physically forced. There shouldn't be imprisonment for it. There should be counseling for it for both the adolescent and the adult. but I also think an adult teaching children should lose their job over it and made impossible to teach again.

I have a 16 year old son and NO I wouldn't give him high fives if he banged his teacher. But if it was consentual he wouldn't share it with me if he did. Would I want him to - I don't know. To me that's his life outside of our lives as a family. And the decisions that he makes, he will have to live with in his lifetime. Doing drugs, alcohol, banging girls or teachers. I don't advocate it and I don't harp on it. It's there and he has to be ADULT enough to make the right decision regardless of the curiousity.

beer bacon · 03-01-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Ya, I said in a later post that they were stats for boys that were sexually assaulted, not boys that were sexually assaulted by teachers. I probably won't find any studies with that specific of criteria.

Even so, I doubt this is good for a child's mental health. I can only wonder how you'd feel if it were your child...

Women aren't good for the mental health of men in general. At least this kid is getting some sex out of it.

Calcountry · 03-01-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

No, pretty much not.

At least you are consistent.

ROYC75 · 03-01-2005, 02:31 PM

( Boy ) Teacher, Teacher, I declair
I wanna see your underware

(Teacher )After school we shall meet
We can get it on in the back seat

**Iowanian** · 03-01-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

You're deluded.

Busted.

OK........maybe I just learned that If I kept asking, eventually, one of them had enough Tequilla from thinking I was Pretty.

**Iowanian** · 03-01-2005, 02:49 PM

"Miss Davis.......You go ta prom wit me?"

**Predarat** · 03-01-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

( Boy ) Teacher, Teacher, I declair
I wanna see your underware

(Teacher )After school we shall meet
We can get it on in the back seat

Thats hilarious!!!!

patteeu · 03-01-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

What? It was in reference to the stats that show that sexually abused boys have higher risk of drug abuse among other things. Sexual abuse of a child does not have two willing participants.

I find your attempt to equate child rape against a completely unwilling young child with statutory rape involving a near-adult who believes themselves to be a willing participant to be overly simplistic.

And your use of statistics is dubious as has already been pointed out.

ROYC75 · 03-01-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat

Thats hilarious!!!!

I was kinda wondering who would pick up the next few lines to add to it ?

jcroft · 03-01-2005, 03:57 PM

My take:

It's wrong for a teacher, or anyone in a position of authority, to bang their students.

That having been said...

In this day and age, almost no one is a virgin past the age of 16. Most 16 year olds are having sex consentually on a regular basis. Many 16 year old girls are having consensual sex regualrly with guys over the age of 18. Some 16 year old boys are having consensual sex regularly with females over the age of 18. If you disagree with any of this, you are either in denail or completly out of touch with today's youth.

Consensual statutory "rape" on a sexually active 16 year old should not be considered anywhere near the crime that non-consensual child molestation is. There is a world of difference. A child who is raped and molested stands to have a life of problems because of it. A 16 year year old boy who bones his teacher, though, stands to lose nothing at all. I would imagine he will have not a single problem in life as a result. Of course, if the teacher gets caught, and it gets slapped all over newspapers, the 16 year old might have trouble because of THAT -- but not because of the sex itself.

I personally don't see much difference between a 16 year old boy boning a 16 year old girl and a 30 year old woman. They're both consensual, they both have equal health/pregnancy risks, and neither is likley to cause either party mental harm.

If this wasn't a teacher, I'd say neither party did anything wrong, in my mind (obviously, the law disagrees, i'm aware of that).

03-01-2005, 09:48 AM
Kclee Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $10014147	Another teacher/pupil sex story? How many does that make now? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...sex_teacher_dc SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A California high school teacher was arraigned on Monday at a Sacramento court accused of having sex with a student in a car as her two-year child was strapped into the back seat. Margaret De Barraicua, 30, a teacher trainee, was charged with four counts of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, a 16-year-old student. The married woman was caught having sex in the late afternoon last week in what was apparently a consensual agreement, officials said. "We received a call about a suspicious parked vehicle at a school here in Sacramento," said local police spokesman Justin Risley. "They got there and observed two people, windows-steamed-up type of thing." "They found them to be partially clothed and engaging in what appeared to be sexual intercourse." Her two-year old son was strapped by a seat belt in the back of the car during the time, he said.
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ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2110400	( Boy ) Teacher, Teacher, I declair I wanna see your underware (Teacher )After school we shall meet We can get it on in the back seat __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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03-01-2005, 03:57 PM	#90
jcroft Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $10004900	My take: It's wrong for a teacher, or anyone in a position of authority, to bang their students. That having been said... In this day and age, almost no one is a virgin past the age of 16. Most 16 year olds are having sex consentually on a regular basis. Many 16 year old girls are having consensual sex regualrly with guys over the age of 18. Some 16 year old boys are having consensual sex regularly with females over the age of 18. If you disagree with any of this, you are either in denail or completly out of touch with today's youth. Consensual statutory "rape" on a sexually active 16 year old should not be considered anywhere near the crime that non-consensual child molestation is. There is a world of difference. A child who is raped and molested stands to have a life of problems because of it. A 16 year year old boy who bones his teacher, though, stands to lose nothing at all. I would imagine he will have not a single problem in life as a result. Of course, if the teacher gets caught, and it gets slapped all over newspapers, the 16 year old might have trouble because of THAT -- but not because of the sex itself. I personally don't see much difference between a 16 year old boy boning a 16 year old girl and a 30 year old woman. They're both consensual, they both have equal health/pregnancy risks, and neither is likley to cause either party mental harm. If this wasn't a teacher, I'd say neither party did anything wrong, in my mind (obviously, the law disagrees, i'm aware of that). __________________ Jeff Croft jeffcroft.com
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