I'm Going On Record And Saying We Pick Thomas Davis - Page 3

philfree · 04-21-2005, 12:12 AM

FS/OLB with our 15th pick in the draft. It won't matter if we have acquired a CB either he'll be the pick. I really like him and it would be a great pick if we were to have Surtain on board but that looks like a long shot so hopefully a good CB will fall to us in the 2nd as well as the later rounds. It's a deep draft for CBs all the way through.

PhilFree

Sparhawk · 04-22-2005, 06:57 AM

I don't want Blackstock at #15 either but I know they're high on him and at times have been known to reach for players. Anyone know for sure how high they are on Ware?

philfree · 04-22-2005, 08:45 PM

Well I'm hedging now

Now I think we pick Davis or trade down with the Rams at #19 so we have a 2nd rounder. 50-50 chance.....

PhilFree

Hammock Parties · 04-22-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Well I'm hedging now

Now I think we pick Davis or trade down with the Rams at #19 so we have a 2nd rounder. 50-50 chance.....

PhilFree

Trading down to 19 would be a good move.

**ChiTown** · 04-22-2005, 08:50 PM

By far, Thomas Davis is the best match for what we need on defense. His versatility, speed and physical demeanor mirrors what Gun is trying to put together.

**petegz28** · 04-22-2005, 08:53 PM

If Davis wants to play LB I take him unless Rogers is available. Then we look for June 1 cut victims or give Fox a shot at OLB.

philfree · 04-22-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Trading down to 19 would be a good move.

As much as I like Davis It makes sense. The Saints pick 16th and they want Davis from what I've gathered and the Rams want Davis too so being in the same division I can see the Rams over paying in a trade to beat out the Saints. That trade would normally garner a 3rd rounder but I think we can get a 2nd rounder out of the Rams. The Rams do have two 3rd rounders but we need a 2nd. Sound famliar? Or we could just take Davis and go on......

PhilFree

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-22-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

As much as I like Davis It makes sense. The Saints pick 16th and they want Davis from what I've gathered and the Rams want Davis too so being in the same division I can see the Rams over paying in a trade to beat out the Saints. That trade would normally garner a 3rd rounder but I think we can get a 2nd rounder out of the Rams. The Rams do have two 3rd rounders but we need a 2nd. Sound famliar? Or we could just take Davis and go on......

stay put and take Davis at the #15 spot

philfree · 04-22-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

stay put and take Davis at the #15 spot

I'm good with that but I can see a trade happen under the circumstances. We won't pass on Davis unless we can extort another team to give up a more then they should. That's not my plan it's what I see happening.

PhilFree

**the Talking Can** · 04-22-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Well I'm hedging now

Now I think we pick Davis or trade down with the Rams at #19 so we have a 2nd rounder. 50-50 chance.....

PhilFree

yup

Now that Surtain is on board, two things are true:

CP wants to get his 2nd back
DV wants a WR

so....if Davis is there at 15, we can simply take him (and I think we should)....or, we can bid New Orleans and St. Louis against each other and see who will pay the most (a 3rd, but maybe someone's crazy enough to give a 2nd)....then we drop a couple of spots and draft Clayton (or Pollack which I'd much prefer)

you know DV is politic-ing hard for the WR he's desired since arriving at KC....I think Davis is a no-brainer superior player to Clayton, but since CP has bought us so many FA toys lately I won't complain (even though it leaves with a hole at OLB)...

Davis
Clayton...........the clock is ticking

nascher · 04-22-2005, 09:19 PM

we don't need more second day picks

philfree · 04-22-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

yup

Now that Surtain is on board, two things are true:

CP wants to get his 2nd back
DV wants a WR

so....if Davis is there at 15, we can simply take him (and I think we should)....or, we can bid New Orleans and St. Louis against each other and see who will pay the most (a 3rd, but maybe someone's crazy enough to give a 2nd)....then we drop a couple of spots and draft Clayton (or Pollack which I'd much prefer)

you know DV is politic-ing hard for the WR he's desired since arriving at KC....I think Davis is a no-brainer superior player to Clayton, but since CP has bought us so many FA toys lately I won't complain (even though it leaves with a hole at OLB)...

Davis
Clayton...........the clock is ticking

How bout Marlin Jackson or Fabian Washington at #19 and a WR in the second. Reggie Brown maybe.

PhilFree

Mr. Kotter · 04-22-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Well I'm hedging now

Now I think we pick Davis or trade down with the Rams at #19 so we have a 2nd rounder. 50-50 chance.....

PhilFree

I'm bein' pessimistic...thinking we can trade down to Indy, Pitt, or Philly...if we can get STL to swap with us, and hand us a second...I'd be all for that.

**the Talking Can** · 04-22-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

How bout Marlin Jackson or Fabian Washington at #19 and a WR in the second. Reggie Brown maybe.

PhilFree

I'd take Jackson...but I think CP/DV would take Clayton...if they go WR in the 2nd I think they'll want to trade down farther in the first for a LB/CB

like I said, I won't complain, but I think Davis (who I've heard described as the hardest hitter in the draft) is a superior talent and a smart DC could wreak havoc with him...he would give us a sweet blitzing nickle package

or (lol)...trade down for Pollack, and then a LB in the 2nd, a WR in the 3rd...who knows, we are in a great position imho

philfree · 04-22-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I'm bein' pessimistic...thinking we can trade down to Indy, Pitt, or Philly...if we can get STL to swap with us, and hand us a second...I'd be all for that.

I'm pretty sure the Rams would like to draft Davis and although he didn't it would be to get Davis I heard the Rams Director Of Player Personel say that if a player they wanted wouldn't last to 19th they'd start making calls around 15th or 16th. Well we know thay ain't gonna call the Saints at 16th to make a deal so it would be us or the Texans. The Texans are 14th I think with out checking. If the Saints want Davis and the Rams want Davis we may be in business with a 2nd. If we can't get a 2nd then we take Davis. And that's what we tell them........I'd still take Davis but I can see the wheels turning on this one.

PhilFree

philfree · 04-22-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

I'd take Jackson...but I think CP/DV would take Clayton...if they go WR in the 2nd I think they'll want to trade down farther in the first for a LB/CB

like I said, I won't complain, but I think Davis (who I've heard described as the hardest hitter in the draft) is a superior talent and a smart DC could wreak havoc with him...he would give us a sweet blitzing nickle package

or (lol)...trade down for Pollack, and then a LB in the 2nd, a WR in the 3rd...who knows, we are in a great position imho

You gotta have a partner to trade. Who else is a real candidate?

PhilFree

04-21-2005, 12:12 AM
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