I am a GOOD American - Page 15

05-05-2001, 04:44 PM

I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society.

I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance.

I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country.

I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall.

I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too.

I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though.

I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all.

I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one.

You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.

Zebedee DuBois · 05-08-2001, 09:13 PM

As long as there is a great diparity in opportunity between Mexico and the U.S., we will always have this immigration problem.

Do we:
1.) Do nothing, and hope for Mexico to improve herself?
2.) Try to find some way to help Mexico improve?
3.) Just sit and complain about Mexicans?

**AustinChief** · 05-08-2001, 09:16 PM

Fraz,

I couldn't tell by your post... but I hope you understood that I understand ENTIRELY your frustration. My point about the 4th of July in Spain was that I know that I'm the exception and I will fully understand any indignation that comes my way. I will not be forcing this holiday on anyone ... it will be a private party on the beach. Even so, I will still expect some ridicule, and rightfully so.

My point is that it is THEIR culture (Spain) and I have NO right to be angry if they don't respect mine.

So instead of being obnoxious about it... I plan to keep things simple and not "force" my holiday on anyone.

--Kyle

P.S. The attitude towards Americans has "softened" alot recently... we are definetely not "hated" so long as we show a measure of respect.

oleman47 · 05-08-2001, 09:17 PM

Raider Hater
How do you know those girls you heard were illegal?

**Rausch** · 05-08-2001, 09:23 PM

At this point, I'd rather help out the Russians than the Mexicans...

MY brother married a russian gal(that lil' pinko!) :-)# and I honestly have to say that these people(ok, the 22 I've met) have the best work ethic of ANYWHERE in the US...These people work, then get off and go to job 2, then work, then take 15 minutes for lunch, then work, then think about sleep, then go back to work.

ALl she does is go go go go...She wears me out, and she says that due to the extreme poverty over there now there is no other choice. Corruption is soo bad she compares it to Chicago in the 20's...She says every cop is on the take, and the one's that aren't take orders from one's that are...

We could help this country out, gain their respect and friendship, put tha' last nail in the coffin of the cold war, and take a little of the burden of being the great democratic society and let SOMEONE ELSE help carry that load.

Or, we let them fail due to their own inability to cure the corruption and poverty and allow THEM to sink back into communism, and us BOTH to back to the 60's and practicing useless "duck and cover" drills....

Let's help a brother out...

In the order of "most likely to kick our @$$" in the event we DON'T become friends....

05-08-2001, 09:49 PM

We (the Amerian workers) wanted more money but don't work as hard as the foreigners. Sorry to say that but it is the truth...

**Rausch** · 05-08-2001, 09:50 PM

It is the truth...

Did I just agree with you?

05-08-2001, 09:51 PM

who cares what you think Brad

**Rausch** · 05-08-2001, 09:57 PM

Ok...

Now that's more like it!

:-)#

Frazod · 05-08-2001, 10:01 PM

Kyle, I understood what you said and agree with it completely. You are absolutely correct to believe that they don't give a shit about our Independence Day, nor should they. Still, I hope you have a good time.

And by the way, I LOVED SPAIN - my favorite of the Mediterranean countries I visited. The Spanish people were by far the friendliest to us Navy types. All incidents of trouble were isolated, and invariably resulted from us getting drunk and rowdy, and them taking offense. They had every right to, as well.

When I was in Spain, I very much regretted not taking Spanish in high school. Didn't have any interest in it at the time. Of course, I never knew I'd visit Spain, or for that matter, live in the largest city in the middle of my own country....

The flag burning incident took place in Cartagena - me and another guy got lost and came across a big demonstration, where several hundred very pissed-off Spaniards were burning our flags. My friend and I were pissed, but since we were outnumbered 200 to 1, we wisely, quitely and quickly left. The only time I ever saw that happen.

I'd love to go back to Spain. Hopefully, one day I will.

Frazod · 05-08-2001, 10:05 PM

Hey Wacko, maybe I care what he thinks. Perhaps you should take your stupid a$$ back over to the pigpen.

**Rausch** · 05-08-2001, 10:07 PM

thanks man, I mean, it's hard making new friends at a new school, and the kids give ya' a hard time, and no one let's you in the milk line, and bla bla bla.....

Frazod · 05-08-2001, 10:10 PM

No problem, Brad. I got my fill of this guy's sniping crap on the Star BB. Never has anything good to say about anyone.

Rick Stephens · 05-08-2001, 10:13 PM

Brad,

You are so right about the Russian people. I have some Russian friends who came to this country with very little. They worked very long days, 7 days a week. They ask for nothing and are eager to learn and contribute to our society. They are eager to learn our ways and speak our language. Ask them where they are from and they will tell you, "We are American's by way of Russia" not some hyphenated word American.

Frazod · 05-08-2001, 10:17 PM

I don't know any Russians, but one of my best friends married into a family from Romania. They've all immigrated over here legally, speak English fluently (most learned it here, quickly), work hard and are good, productive people. I've got no problem with that kind of immigrant.

Rick Stephens · 05-08-2001, 10:38 PM

Frazod,

One of the other BB's that I visit had a big debate over the topic of illegal immigration. It is a gun board and even the Mexican's on there think that the border's need to be tightened up and the immigrants need to learn English. I thought it was rather funny after the same debate had gone on here.

They even posted a picture of the billboard which welcome's one to "California the Illegal Immagrant State."

05-05-2001, 04:44 PM
Taco John Guest Casino cash: $	I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American. I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society. I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance. I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country. I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall. I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too. I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though. I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all. I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one. You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.
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05-08-2001, 09:13 PM	#211
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $-1854801	I repeat my earlier post.... As long as there is a great diparity in opportunity between Mexico and the U.S., we will always have this immigration problem. Do we: 1.) Do nothing, and hope for Mexico to improve herself? 2.) Try to find some way to help Mexico improve? 3.) Just sit and complain about Mexicans? __________________ What am I even doing here?
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05-08-2001, 09:16 PM	#212
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $-744998	Fraz, I couldn't tell by your post... but I hope you understood that I understand ENTIRELY your frustration. My point about the 4th of July in Spain was that I know that I'm the exception and I will fully understand any indignation that comes my way. I will not be forcing this holiday on anyone ... it will be a private party on the beach. Even so, I will still expect some ridicule, and rightfully so. My point is that it is THEIR culture (Spain) and I have NO right to be angry if they don't respect mine. So instead of being obnoxious about it... I plan to keep things simple and not "force" my holiday on anyone. --Kyle P.S. The attitude towards Americans has "softened" alot recently... we are definetely not "hated" so long as we show a measure of respect.
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05-08-2001, 09:17 PM	#213
oleman47 Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	Raider Hater How do you know those girls you heard were illegal?
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05-08-2001, 09:49 PM	#215
WackyRuss Guest Casino cash: $	We (the Amerian workers) wanted more money but don't work as hard as the foreigners. Sorry to say that but it is the truth...
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05-08-2001, 09:51 PM	#217
WackyRuss Guest Casino cash: $	who cares what you think Brad
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05-08-2001, 10:01 PM	#219
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-786615	Kyle, I understood what you said and agree with it completely. You are absolutely correct to believe that they don't give a shit about our Independence Day, nor should they. Still, I hope you have a good time. And by the way, I LOVED SPAIN - my favorite of the Mediterranean countries I visited. The Spanish people were by far the friendliest to us Navy types. All incidents of trouble were isolated, and invariably resulted from us getting drunk and rowdy, and them taking offense. They had every right to, as well. When I was in Spain, I very much regretted not taking Spanish in high school. Didn't have any interest in it at the time. Of course, I never knew I'd visit Spain, or for that matter, live in the largest city in the middle of my own country.... The flag burning incident took place in Cartagena - me and another guy got lost and came across a big demonstration, where several hundred very pissed-off Spaniards were burning our flags. My friend and I were pissed, but since we were outnumbered 200 to 1, we wisely, quitely and quickly left. The only time I ever saw that happen. I'd love to go back to Spain. Hopefully, one day I will.
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05-08-2001, 10:05 PM	#220
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-786615	Hey Wacko, maybe I care what he thinks. Perhaps you should take your stupid a$$ back over to the pigpen.
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05-08-2001, 10:10 PM	#222
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-786615	No problem, Brad. I got my fill of this guy's sniping crap on the Star BB. Never has anything good to say about anyone.
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05-08-2001, 10:13 PM	#223
Rick Stephens #1 Chiefs Collector Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Garden Grove, California Casino cash: $10004900	Brad, You are so right about the Russian people. I have some Russian friends who came to this country with very little. They worked very long days, 7 days a week. They ask for nothing and are eager to learn and contribute to our society. They are eager to learn our ways and speak our language. Ask them where they are from and they will tell you, "We are American's by way of Russia" not some hyphenated word American.
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05-08-2001, 10:17 PM	#224
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-786615	I don't know any Russians, but one of my best friends married into a family from Romania. They've all immigrated over here legally, speak English fluently (most learned it here, quickly), work hard and are good, productive people. I've got no problem with that kind of immigrant.
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05-08-2001, 10:38 PM	#225
Rick Stephens #1 Chiefs Collector Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Garden Grove, California Casino cash: $10004900	Frazod, One of the other BB's that I visit had a big debate over the topic of illegal immigration. It is a gun board and even the Mexican's on there think that the border's need to be tightened up and the immigrants need to learn English. I thought it was rather funny after the same debate had gone on here. They even posted a picture of the billboard which welcome's one to "California the Illegal Immagrant State."
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