That last field goal by Janikowski...........

ChiefDebbie · 09-10-2001, 11:03 AM

What do you think?:confused:

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 11:11 AM

From several people that I talked to who probably had a better angle, they thought the FG was no good.

I was sitting behind the other goal post and it looked NO GOOD to me either.

**Baby Lee** · 09-10-2001, 11:13 AM

It was good. No matter how bad your opinion of the refs, I'd have to credit them with the ability to look straight up the goal post and see which side the ball was on. As the ball was curving as it progressed and most of us viewed the kick on a 2-D screen, it looked very different to us.

Someone remarked that a FG over [ie, completely above] the cross bars was no good, but the NFL rules hold that

[quote] The actual goal is the plane extending indefinitely above the crossbar and between the outer edges of the posts [/quote]

NaptownChief · 09-10-2001, 11:14 AM

To be honest it looked like the ball was half on the upright and half outside...If the upright went up that high I believe it would have hit it and clanked off...But that didn't even bother me cause I had realized by that point we would have found another way to lose the game even if he missed.

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 11:15 AM

Darn JC - you're good!

PunkinDrublic · 09-10-2001, 11:48 AM

Weren't they going to deport that guy at one point?

Lightning Rod · 09-10-2001, 11:52 AM

Just curious, Can they review a FG?

HC_Chief · 09-10-2001, 12:11 PM

Never should have come down to that FG anyway.

We had a dropped TD (Gonzo), 2 botched exchanges, a missed FG, blown KO coverage with 1 minute left, and a second-year CB covering TIM BROWN with less than 60 seconds on the clock. Correct any of those mistakes, and it's not up to Jano.

We just didn't play well enough to win - Oakland did. Makes me sick to admit it... but it is true.

Stryker · 09-10-2001, 12:15 PM

Kudos HC_Chief!!! My sentiments exactly!;)

Gaz · 09-10-2001, 12:26 PM

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I would prefer not to go there. Let's not cheapen ourselves by questioning a field goal.

The Raiders outplayed and outlasted us. Our Offense got very little going all day, our Special Teams were less than special [with the exception of great punting by Stryzinski] and our Defense was worn out in the 4th quarter.

The Raiders beat us, even though we benefited from a bad call on Garner's catch and a very friendly spot on Richardson's catch. Sure, you can then bring up the [2] or [3] Intentional Groundings that Gannon got away with and the holding calls that went un-flagged [on both sides of the ball, based on the stretched jerseys I saw all game long], but that just keeps the spiral going.

The Raiders won and the field goal was good. Unpalatable, I know, but close your eyes and swallow. That greasy lump will fade as the Chiefs continue their rebuilding season and get better as the year marches on.

We are better than this.

xoxo~
Gaz
Giving the Raiders credit, even though it hurts all the way down to the bone.
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kcchiefs222001 · 09-10-2001, 05:03 PM

It looked like it was far right to me. I think the refs just couldn't see the ball with the sun in their eyes and they didn't want to piss Gruden off again.

TheRaid_IsOn · 09-10-2001, 05:23 PM

Now that's a Stand up attitude..... Good to see that at least ONE Chef fan can admit that a better team just plain and simply outplayed your chefs !!!

Oakland Raiders Football "YOUR AFC West Champions !!!"

KCWolfman · 09-10-2001, 05:25 PM

Gaz - The one thing I like about the replacement officials is the lack of PI calls. Let them play instead of trying to artificially boost the score by giving first downs for love taps.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-10-2001, 05:25 PM

Yes, the Raiders beat KC, but didn't pummel the Chiefs like some of your comrades predicted.

09-10-2001, 05:27 PM

Hello, theraidison.

If you are here to talk football, then start talking. If you are here to serve crow, the only crow we are eating is from Raiders fans that had the sack to post & discuss football with us PRIOR to the game as well as postgame. If you ONLY want to run smack, then [b]you[/b] will be run. I hope you understand and do not wear out your welcome with your second post.

Thanks.

09-10-2001, 11:03 AM
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09-10-2001, 11:11 AM	#2
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	From several people that I talked to who probably had a better angle, they thought the FG was no good. I was sitting behind the other goal post and it looked NO GOOD to me either. __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 11:13 AM	#3
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	It was good. No matter how bad your opinion of the refs, I'd have to credit them with the ability to look straight up the goal post and see which side the ball was on. As the ball was curving as it progressed and most of us viewed the kick on a 2-D screen, it looked very different to us. Someone remarked that a FG over [ie, completely above] the cross bars was no good, but the NFL rules hold that [quote] The actual goal is the plane extending indefinitely above the crossbar and between the outer edges of the posts [/quote] __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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09-10-2001, 11:14 AM	#4
NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	To be honest it looked like the ball was half on the upright and half outside...If the upright went up that high I believe it would have hit it and clanked off...But that didn't even bother me cause I had realized by that point we would have found another way to lose the game even if he missed. __________________ "We weren't worth a damn," the Kansas City Chiefs head coach said, shaking his head. "I'm not worth a damn. No one's worth a damn..." Former President of the Eric Downing Fan Club and Current President of the Kris"Secret Weapon"Wilson Fan Club
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09-10-2001, 11:15 AM	#5
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	Darn JC - you're good! __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 11:48 AM	#6
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09-10-2001, 11:52 AM	#7
Lightning Rod Need a new title Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Prairie Village Casino cash: $10004900	Just curious, Can they review a FG? __________________ Who was the first person to say, "See that chicken over there ... I'm gonna eat the first thing that comes out if its butt"?
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09-10-2001, 12:11 PM	#8
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Never should have come down to that FG anyway. We had a dropped TD (Gonzo), 2 botched exchanges, a missed FG, blown KO coverage with 1 minute left, and a second-year CB covering TIM BROWN with less than 60 seconds on the clock. Correct any of those mistakes, and it's not up to Jano. We just didn't play well enough to win - Oakland did. Makes me sick to admit it... but it is true. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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09-10-2001, 12:15 PM	#9
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09-10-2001, 12:26 PM	#10
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	That last field goal by Janikowski is what the Raiders pay him for... [font=Garamond][size=4] I would prefer not to go there. Let's not cheapen ourselves by questioning a field goal. The Raiders outplayed and outlasted us. Our Offense got very little going all day, our Special Teams were less than special [with the exception of great punting by Stryzinski] and our Defense was worn out in the 4th quarter. The Raiders beat us, even though we benefited from a bad call on Garner's catch and a very friendly spot on Richardson's catch. Sure, you can then bring up the [2] or [3] Intentional Groundings that Gannon got away with and the holding calls that went un-flagged [on both sides of the ball, based on the stretched jerseys I saw all game long], but that just keeps the spiral going. The Raiders won and the field goal was good. Unpalatable, I know, but close your eyes and swallow. That greasy lump will fade as the Chiefs continue their rebuilding season and get better as the year marches on. We are better than this. xoxo~ Gaz Giving the Raiders credit, even though it hurts all the way down to the bone. [/font][/size]
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09-10-2001, 05:03 PM	#11
kcchiefs222001 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	It looked like it was far right to me. I think the refs just couldn't see the ball with the sun in their eyes and they didn't want to piss Gruden off again.
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09-10-2001, 05:23 PM	#12
TheRaid_IsOn Rookie Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Re: That last field goal by Janikowski is what the Raiders pay him for... Now that's a Stand up attitude..... Good to see that at least ONE Chef fan can admit that a better team just plain and simply outplayed your chefs !!! Oakland Raiders Football "YOUR AFC West Champions !!!"
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09-10-2001, 05:25 PM	#13
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Gaz - The one thing I like about the replacement officials is the lack of PI calls. Let them play instead of trying to artificially boost the score by giving first downs for love taps.
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09-10-2001, 05:25 PM	#14
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-3057187	Yes, the Raiders beat KC, but didn't pummel the Chiefs like some of your comrades predicted. __________________
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09-10-2001, 05:27 PM	#15
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Hello, theraidison. If you are here to talk football, then start talking. If you are here to serve crow, the only crow we are eating is from Raiders fans that had the sack to post & discuss football with us PRIOR to the game as well as postgame. If you ONLY want to run smack, then [b]you[/b] will be run. I hope you understand and do not wear out your welcome with your second post. Thanks.
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