Draft is tomorrow and I need some advice.

chop · 08-18-2006, 07:46 PM

I play in a keeper league and have to decide who my two keepers should be.

Starting positions: 1QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 Flex RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Def.

Scoring: 1 pt. for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 1 pt. for every 25 yards passing, 6 pts. for each td, 2 pts. for 3pt conversion, 1 pt. for each reception

These are the players that I can choose from (only two):

Larry Johnson
Peyton Manning
Steven Jackson
Lamont Jordan
Cedric Benson
Donald Driver

Who would you choose?

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-18-2006, 07:50 PM

LJ and Manning.

chop · 08-18-2006, 07:52 PM

That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

chop · 08-18-2006, 07:54 PM

I'm thinking that I can get Ronnie Brown with my first pick. That would give me Johnson, Brown, and Jackson/Jordan. I could get the best available QB and WR with my next 2-3 picks.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-18-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

I'm not really sure how these work, but Steven Jackson has a lot of upside, but you can't go wrong with Manning IMO.

It's either Jackson or Manning IMO. (and LJ of course)

**Nzoner** · 08-18-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

I think keeping Jackson is a good move.

Another piece of advice,if this is a money league I'd do everything I could to get the draft moved to at least after the 3rd preseason game if not later.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 08-18-2006, 08:01 PM

Forget about Jordan. Jackson or Manning with LJ

ZootedGranny · 08-18-2006, 08:07 PM

I don't think you can go wrong with either of your options, but I'd keep 2 RBs.

Manning is a step above other QBs, but the disparity between him and a QB like Delhomme, who can be had later in the draft, is much less than LJ and someone you'd find in the corresponding round.

Just as an example, in a 12 team league, Delhomme's ADP is the bottom of the 6th round, where the RBs being picked are players like McAllister, Maroney, Brown, Gore, etc.

chop · 08-18-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla

Forget about Jordan. Jackson or Manning with LJ

Actually, that is what I'm struggling over, Jackson vs. Manning.

I wasn't really considering Jordan, but when the league recently decided to add a point for each reception he jumped back onto my radar. Jordan had 70 receptions last year.

chop · 08-18-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny

I don't think you can go wrong with either of your options, but I'd keep 2 RBs.

Manning is a step above other QBs, but the disparity between him and a QB like Delhomme, who can be had later in the draft, is much less than LJ and someone you'd find in the corresponding round.

Just as an example, in a 12 team league, Delhomme's ADP is the bottom of the 6th round, where the RBs being picked are players like McAllister, Maroney, Brown, Gore, etc.

I am keeping Johnson. The decision I need to make is between Jackson and Manning. Is the difference between Jackson and the next guy greater than the difference between Manning and the next QB.

ZootedGranny · 08-18-2006, 08:38 PM

Since you can start up to 4 RBs (if I'm reading correctly), having as many good RBs as possible is more beneficial than having the highest scoring QB.

I don't know the rest of the players available in your league, but since you said you think you'd be able to get Ronnie Brown...having LJ, Jackson, Brown and drafting a mid round QB (Brees, Delhomme) is more appealing to me than having Manning, LJ & choosing between guys like Jones, Dunn, Parker, etc.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 08-18-2006, 08:44 PM

It's a really tough choice but I think I would go with Jackson over Manning. Faulk and Jackson combined for about 90 catches last season (about 45 each). Without Faulk, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson with 60+. Of Course without Martz there, I don't know how much of their offensive philosophy has changed, but I don't think it will dramatically affect his catches

chop · 08-18-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny

Since you can start up to 4 RBs (if I'm reading correctly), having as many good RBs as possible is more beneficial than having the highest scoring QB.

I don't know the rest of the players available in your league, but since you said you think you'd be able to get Ronnie Brown...having LJ, Jackson, Brown and drafting a mid round QB (Brees, Delhomme) is more appealing to me than having Manning, LJ & choosing between guys like Jones, Dunn, Parker, etc.

You are reading correctly. We can start 4 rb's if we want.

What sounds better for the first three picks (Manning, LJ, Brown) or (LJ, Jackson, Brown) ?

It could be possible that Jackson may fall to me if I keep Manning. I have the third pick and there are still several players available. Here's a list of players that I will have an option at: R. Brown, R. Moss, L. Fitzgerald (thinking about him seriously), J. Jones, K. Jones, Rudy Johnson, l. Jordan, C. Dillon, W. Parker, S. Moss.

chop · 08-18-2006, 08:54 PM

If I don't keep Manning I'm sure he'll be gone either 1st or 2nd.

ZootedGranny · 08-18-2006, 09:06 PM

In your league, RBs are going to be scarce.

Let's say you keep Manning. If you plan to pick a 3rd RB early, which would be wise to do considering you can start up to 4, when you do so you're going to be picking amongst questionable RBs. On the other hand, if you have 3 RBs before picking a QB, there are still going to be solid QBs around.

08-18-2006, 07:46 PM
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	Draft is tomorrow and I need some advice. I play in a keeper league and have to decide who my two keepers should be. Starting positions: 1QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 Flex RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Def. Scoring: 1 pt. for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 1 pt. for every 25 yards passing, 6 pts. for each td, 2 pts. for 3pt conversion, 1 pt. for each reception These are the players that I can choose from (only two): Larry Johnson Peyton Manning Steven Jackson Lamont Jordan Cedric Benson Donald Driver Who would you choose?
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08-18-2006, 07:52 PM	#3
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning). __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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08-18-2006, 07:54 PM	#4
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	I'm thinking that I can get Ronnie Brown with my first pick. That would give me Johnson, Brown, and Jackson/Jordan. I could get the best available QB and WR with my next 2-3 picks. __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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08-18-2006, 08:01 PM	#7
Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	Forget about Jordan. Jackson or Manning with LJ
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08-18-2006, 08:07 PM	#8
ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	I don't think you can go wrong with either of your options, but I'd keep 2 RBs. Manning is a step above other QBs, but the disparity between him and a QB like Delhomme, who can be had later in the draft, is much less than LJ and someone you'd find in the corresponding round. Just as an example, in a 12 team league, Delhomme's ADP is the bottom of the 6th round, where the RBs being picked are players like McAllister, Maroney, Brown, Gore, etc.
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08-18-2006, 08:38 PM	#11
ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	Since you can start up to 4 RBs (if I'm reading correctly), having as many good RBs as possible is more beneficial than having the highest scoring QB. I don't know the rest of the players available in your league, but since you said you think you'd be able to get Ronnie Brown...having LJ, Jackson, Brown and drafting a mid round QB (Brees, Delhomme) is more appealing to me than having Manning, LJ & choosing between guys like Jones, Dunn, Parker, etc.
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08-18-2006, 08:44 PM	#12
Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	It's a really tough choice but I think I would go with Jackson over Manning. Faulk and Jackson combined for about 90 catches last season (about 45 each). Without Faulk, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson with 60+. Of Course without Martz there, I don't know how much of their offensive philosophy has changed, but I don't think it will dramatically affect his catches
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08-18-2006, 08:54 PM	#14
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	If I don't keep Manning I'm sure he'll be gone either 1st or 2nd. __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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08-18-2006, 09:06 PM	#15
ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	In your league, RBs are going to be scarce. Let's say you keep Manning. If you plan to pick a 3rd RB early, which would be wise to do considering you can start up to 4, when you do so you're going to be picking amongst questionable RBs. On the other hand, if you have 3 RBs before picking a QB, there are still going to be solid QBs around.
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