Has flu paranoia hit your area? - Page 2

BIG_DADDY · 11-27-2006, 02:40 PM

I have had 3 people hand me flyers this weekend on flu shots.

I'm like "I don't get sick" then they try to talk me into getting them anyway. Then I get all loud about not wanting to put that crap inside of me and they get all mad.

Eleazar · 11-27-2006, 03:14 PM

I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot. I can't remember the last time I had the flu either. It's probably been 10 years or so.

If I were 70 years old or had a 1 year old child I might look into them.

**Saulbadguy** · 11-27-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot. I can't remember the last time I had the flu either. It's probably been 10 years or so.

If I were 70 years old or had a 1 year old child I might look into them.

Clever marketing and "E.R." has turned this nation in to hypochondriacs.

BIG_DADDY · 11-27-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot. I can't remember the last time I had the flu either. It's probably been 10 years or so.

If I were 70 years old or had a 1 year old child I might look into them.

It's only the people that get the shots that get sick.

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-27-2006, 03:18 PM

My wife and I both work in large schools (2100 students, and 1100 students), our two oldest kids attend a pretty large elementary (420), and our two youngest each attend a day care AND a seperate preschool three days a week. So, we are exposed to five large and active germ factories. Compound that with the fact that living in SD means lots of time "inside," and not much opportunity for houses and offices to "air out" during the heart of winter....and flu can be a real problem.

Lengthy bouts with the flu are very likely if we don't get shots. Personally, I'd rather work than battle the flu, so we all get shots. If I was a businessman working in the Valley.....I probably wouldn't though.

**Mr. Kotter** · 11-27-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

It's only the people that get the shots that get sick.

I can tell you THAT it is not true. The shots are MOST beneficial to the very young, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems...but the much shorter battles people experience even with the shot, save them days or even weeks of illness which can be pretty nasty.

I do think your work environment and climate can have a big impact though.

Chiefnj · 11-27-2006, 03:48 PM

In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.

In 2001 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition.

Boy, if the corporations could make a malnutrition vaccination they'd see a real big profit. Where are the media scare tactics for malnutrition?

BIG_DADDY · 11-27-2006, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I can tell you THAT it is not true. The shots are MOST beneficial to the very young, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems...but the much shorter battles people experience even with the shot, save them days or even weeks of illness which can be pretty nasty.

I do think your work environment and climate can have a big impact though.

I was in health clubs most of my life and it's really easy to catch something there. Rolling around on the mats in Jiu-Jitsu isn't exactly the safest enviroment as well. I did have 2 colds last year but before those you would have to go back 5 years since I had one of those.

Calcountry · 11-27-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Clever marketing and "E.R." has turned this nation in to hypochondriacs.

All "E.R." did, was make people like Skip certain, that if they went to the doctor, they would get killed.

Eleazar · 11-27-2006, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.

In 2001 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition.

Boy, if the corporations could make a malnutrition vaccination they'd see a real big profit. Where are the media scare tactics for malnutrition?

I don't see corporations pimping the flu story, it's the government and the media.

Just another wonderful benefit brought to you by cradle to grave service from Uncle Sam.

**cdcox** · 11-27-2006, 04:16 PM

My keyboard at work has all kinds of food crumbs on it, not to mention dried on food on the table it sits on. Plus, I never wash my coffee cup, or wipe down the interior of my truck. Therefore, I'm constantly exposed to all kinds of powerful bacteria and virus' that keeps my immune system on its toes. I very seldom get sick. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. However, I do wash my hands at least half a dozen times a day, to avoid exposing myself to unfamiliar bugs.

Hydrae · 11-27-2006, 04:43 PM

I got a shot this year as the last several years. Hey, the company pays for it, why not?

**Donger** · 11-27-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.

From where did you get that figure?

BIG_DADDY · 11-27-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dongless

From where did you get that figure?

Whoever did the names this time really outdid themself. I'm not sure whether I like the Dongless of Hummus Jenkins better.

I need to know who to give rep to on this one.

Floridafan · 11-27-2006, 05:06 PM

Flu Shot and Alzheimer’s

Since flu shot season is approaching I thought it appropriate to remind everyone that according to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our time (over 850 papers in peer reviewed journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots their chance of getting Alzheimer's disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. (1)
Dr. Fudenberg claims this is due to the mercury and aluminum in flu shots (and many childhood and RhoGam shots); these toxins buildup in the brain causing cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? (2)
By the way, to disprove the Alzheimer’s/flu shots connection some Toronto MDs went to nursing homes and asked people with Alzheimer’s if they remember getting a flu shot. Most said they didn’t remember getting one. Not surprising since Alzheimer’s victims may not remember the names of their spouse. Anyway, based on this “research” they concluded the flu shots were safe but the disclaimer at the bottom of the abstract negated its value: “Because of the self-reported nature of the risk factor questionnaire we cannot exclude the possibility of recall bias.” (3) Can you believe that the media reported this as “proof” the flu shot was safe? They didn’t mention the disclaimer. Maybe they all had too many flu shots?
(1) Dr. Fudenberg at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission.
(2) John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998.
(3) Verreault R, Laurin D, Lindsay, J, et al Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer’s disease. CMAJ 2001;165(11):1495-8

Note: Dr. Fudenberg's web site is: http://members.aol.com/nitrf I recommend you visit it. Fascinating stuff there.

Enough said.

BIG_DADDY · 11-28-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floridafan

Flu Shot and Alzheimer’s

Since flu shot season is approaching I thought it appropriate to remind everyone that according to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our time (over 850 papers in peer reviewed journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots their chance of getting Alzheimer's disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. (1)
Dr. Fudenberg claims this is due to the mercury and aluminum in flu shots (and many childhood and RhoGam shots); these toxins buildup in the brain causing cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? (2)
By the way, to disprove the Alzheimer’s/flu shots connection some Toronto MDs went to nursing homes and asked people with Alzheimer’s if they remember getting a flu shot. Most said they didn’t remember getting one. Not surprising since Alzheimer’s victims may not remember the names of their spouse. Anyway, based on this “research” they concluded the flu shots were safe but the disclaimer at the bottom of the abstract negated its value: “Because of the self-reported nature of the risk factor questionnaire we cannot exclude the possibility of recall bias.” (3) Can you believe that the media reported this as “proof” the flu shot was safe? They didn’t mention the disclaimer. Maybe they all had too many flu shots?
(1) Dr. Fudenberg at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission.
(2) John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998.
(3) Verreault R, Laurin D, Lindsay, J, et al Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer’s disease. CMAJ 2001;165(11):1495-8

Note: Dr. Fudenberg's web site is: http://members.aol.com/nitrf I recommend you visit it. Fascinating stuff there.

Enough said.

Rep

I have been talking about thus shit for years but there are several posters on this BB that say I'm crazy. Thanks for the post.

11-27-2006, 02:40 PM
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11-27-2006, 03:14 PM	#16
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot. I can't remember the last time I had the flu either. It's probably been 10 years or so. If I were 70 years old or had a 1 year old child I might look into them.
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11-27-2006, 03:18 PM	#19
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3244285	My wife and I both work in large schools (2100 students, and 1100 students), our two oldest kids attend a pretty large elementary (420), and our two youngest each attend a day care AND a seperate preschool three days a week. So, we are exposed to five large and active germ factories. Compound that with the fact that living in SD means lots of time "inside," and not much opportunity for houses and offices to "air out" during the heart of winter....and flu can be a real problem. Lengthy bouts with the flu are very likely if we don't get shots. Personally, I'd rather work than battle the flu, so we all get shots. If I was a businessman working in the Valley.....I probably wouldn't though. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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11-27-2006, 03:48 PM	#21
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu. In 2001 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition. Boy, if the corporations could make a malnutrition vaccination they'd see a real big profit. Where are the media scare tactics for malnutrition? __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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11-27-2006, 04:16 PM	#25
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-588231	My keyboard at work has all kinds of food crumbs on it, not to mention dried on food on the table it sits on. Plus, I never wash my coffee cup, or wipe down the interior of my truck. Therefore, I'm constantly exposed to all kinds of powerful bacteria and virus' that keeps my immune system on its toes. I very seldom get sick. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. However, I do wash my hands at least half a dozen times a day, to avoid exposing myself to unfamiliar bugs.
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11-27-2006, 04:43 PM	#26
Hydrae MVP Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newport, Or Casino cash: $-1163000	I got a shot this year as the last several years. Hey, the company pays for it, why not?
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11-27-2006, 05:06 PM	#29
Floridafan Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Casino cash: $9846623	Flu Shot and Alzheimer’s Since flu shot season is approaching I thought it appropriate to remind everyone that according to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our time (over 850 papers in peer reviewed journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots their chance of getting Alzheimer's disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. (1) Dr. Fudenberg claims this is due to the mercury and aluminum in flu shots (and many childhood and RhoGam shots); these toxins buildup in the brain causing cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? (2) By the way, to disprove the Alzheimer’s/flu shots connection some Toronto MDs went to nursing homes and asked people with Alzheimer’s if they remember getting a flu shot. Most said they didn’t remember getting one. Not surprising since Alzheimer’s victims may not remember the names of their spouse. Anyway, based on this “research” they concluded the flu shots were safe but the disclaimer at the bottom of the abstract negated its value: “Because of the self-reported nature of the risk factor questionnaire we cannot exclude the possibility of recall bias.” (3) Can you believe that the media reported this as “proof” the flu shot was safe? They didn’t mention the disclaimer. Maybe they all had too many flu shots? (1) Dr. Fudenberg at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission. (2) John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998. (3) Verreault R, Laurin D, Lindsay, J, et al Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer’s disease. CMAJ 2001;165(11):1495-8 Note: Dr. Fudenberg's web site is: http://members.aol.com/nitrf I recommend you visit it. Fascinating stuff there. Enough said.
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