Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard? - Page 7

Believer · 12-17-2006, 10:12 AM

I know. I know. Huard had a bad game at Miami. But in 2001 Brady came off a so-so game vs St.Louis as the Patriots fell to 5-5, but Belichick saw the whole picture, that the Patriots had turned around a 0-2 start by going 5-3 under Brady.

there are good arguments for either side, but i think, since Green has only really had one good game, and last week he stunk to high heaven, its a valid question. Would Huard have had 2 picks, a fumble, and a bunch of sacks?

He wasnt the passer Green is, but he managed the game better and helped the defense.

Just throwing it out there...

**mlyonsd** · 12-17-2006, 05:44 PM

Edwards is a young Marty. Hopefully it won't take him 17 years to figure out what Marty has.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-17-2006, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Edwards is a young Marty. Hopefully it won't take him 17 years to figure out what Marty has.

It won't. After he flames out here, no one will be dumb enough to hire him again.

bringbackmarty · 12-17-2006, 07:05 PM

Well it seems like our games go one of two ways, either we are in a defensive type game where we protect more, run more, and make shorter passes to build longer drives - (Like the Denver games, and Oakland) Or we open our offense up and throw the ball more. I think aside from trents performance in Baltimore, he is a better Quarterback for our full offense, Where Huard is better at managing the game from a conservative standpoint. He takes fewer chances, and relies on his backs and utility recievers to make plays, where trent takes more shots at the secondary. Huard is the better fit for this team with our current line problems, and lack of a true no 1 reciever, but Trent is better when we can field our full offense, with an attack type gameplan.

Believer · 12-17-2006, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

who says i'm ripping anything

GOD told Herm to start Green .....

you don't believe?

Being critical of his coaching is one thing. Making fun of his religion is being a lowlife.

DomerNKC · 12-17-2006, 10:28 PM

Trent Green WAS a good quarterback. Trent Green HAD great numbers the last couple of years. The door has closed on his career, he is too stubborn to admit it. Sometimes when you lose it, it goes immediately. Trent has been a great quarterback for this team, but he needs to do what is best for the team and hang 'em up. I don't know if Huard is the answer or if Croyle is the answer, but Trent is definately not the answer. Hell i'd sell the farm just to get the rights to Brady Quinn and see what happens but we almost need a complete rebuild at this point. Our offense can't score and our defense cant stop anyone.

Hootie · 12-17-2006, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomerNKC

Trent Green WAS a good quarterback. Trent Green HAD great numbers the last couple of years. The door has closed on his career, he is too stubborn to admit it. Sometimes when you lose it, it goes immediately. Trent has been a great quarterback for this team, but he needs to do what is best for the team and hang 'em up. I don't know if Huard is the answer or if Croyle is the answer, but Trent is definately not the answer. Hell i'd sell the farm just to get the rights to Brady Quinn and see what happens but we almost need a complete rebuild at this point. Our offense can't score and our defense cant stop anyone.

Yet, when I said this two months ago...I was THE idiot. Gotcha!

DomerNKC · 12-17-2006, 10:48 PM

Hootie
"Scary" Larry Johnson

Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Normal, IL

Quote:
Originally Posted by DomerNKC
someone must have told him (probably priest) that he gets paid whether he suits up or not. I dont look for him in there any time soon...if ever. he will milk this for as long as he can, or until the chiefs get a better left tackle.

oh, well, you're dumb
__________________
God Bless You, Lamar Hunt.
Report Post | IP: Logged
That was exactly what you said huh?

DomerNKC · 12-17-2006, 10:51 PM

Hootie
"Scary" Larry Johnson

Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Normal, IL Green brings a lot more to the table than Huard does. A LOT MORE.

I like Huard, I really do...but his batted balls are getting ridiculous...and Green is just simply better in this offense. There is a reason Huard is a backup.
Report Post | IP: Logged
selective memory?

CASHMAN · 12-17-2006, 10:52 PM

How do we go from the #1 O the last few years to #17 or worse under herm, didnt he say why mess with something if it isnt broke. Well he broke it....................

CASHMAN.

LanceHunter · 12-17-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

There is a reason Trent has been a starting pro bowl QB and ranked in the top 3 for the last 5 years.

There is a reason that Huard has been a backup QB for 10+ years in the NFL.....

People on this board, I would say 99.9% didnt even want Huard on the roster openind day. Now question wether he should be a starter or not?

Fickle, very fickle...

Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
just some info from the past :
The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................

Believer · 12-17-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

Yet, when I said this two months ago...I was THE idiot. Gotcha!

wrong, Hootie. When we said this just this afternoon, we were idiots.

DomerNKC · 12-17-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

Yet, when I said this two months ago...I was THE idiot. Gotcha!

P.S. you are still THE idiot. case closed.

Mecca · 12-17-2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CASHMAN

How do we go from the #1 O the last few years to #17 or worse under herm, didnt he say why mess with something if it isnt broke. Well he broke it....................

CASHMAN.

Age....loss of a few players, and now having no gamebreakers especially at WR is really showing up.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2006, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanceHunter

Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
just some info from the past :
The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................

Nope supported Gannon.... Green is 5 times the QB Grbac was. Gannons should of continued to start.

Tell you what. Herm leaves and takes Huard with him in a couple of weeks then we will all be happy and Hootie will follow them to another message board.

How is that?

LanceHunter · 12-17-2006, 11:03 PM

how bout Carl and Herm leave , I'm tired of Carl's 5 year plan , now in the 17th year lol.

12-17-2006, 10:12 AM
Believer Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard? I know. I know. Huard had a bad game at Miami. But in 2001 Brady came off a so-so game vs St.Louis as the Patriots fell to 5-5, but Belichick saw the whole picture, that the Patriots had turned around a 0-2 start by going 5-3 under Brady. there are good arguments for either side, but i think, since Green has only really had one good game, and last week he stunk to high heaven, its a valid question. Would Huard have had 2 picks, a fumble, and a bunch of sacks? He wasnt the passer Green is, but he managed the game better and helped the defense. Just throwing it out there...
Posts: 531

12-17-2006, 05:44 PM	#91
mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $-2216238	Edwards is a young Marty. Hopefully it won't take him 17 years to figure out what Marty has.
Posts: 39,478

12-17-2006, 07:05 PM	#93
bringbackmarty Gonna go back in time.... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1225510	Well it seems like our games go one of two ways, either we are in a defensive type game where we protect more, run more, and make shorter passes to build longer drives - (Like the Denver games, and Oakland) Or we open our offense up and throw the ball more. I think aside from trents performance in Baltimore, he is a better Quarterback for our full offense, Where Huard is better at managing the game from a conservative standpoint. He takes fewer chances, and relies on his backs and utility recievers to make plays, where trent takes more shots at the secondary. Huard is the better fit for this team with our current line problems, and lack of a true no 1 reciever, but Trent is better when we can field our full offense, with an attack type gameplan. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/The-Pheasan...6018120266009/
Posts: 3,085

12-17-2006, 10:28 PM	#95
DomerNKC In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $9995110	Trent Green WAS a good quarterback. Trent Green HAD great numbers the last couple of years. The door has closed on his career, he is too stubborn to admit it. Sometimes when you lose it, it goes immediately. Trent has been a great quarterback for this team, but he needs to do what is best for the team and hang 'em up. I don't know if Huard is the answer or if Croyle is the answer, but Trent is definately not the answer. Hell i'd sell the farm just to get the rights to Brady Quinn and see what happens but we almost need a complete rebuild at this point. Our offense can't score and our defense cant stop anyone. __________________ Behold the bitten apple, the power of the tools, but all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools.
Posts: 22,070

12-17-2006, 10:48 PM	#97
DomerNKC In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $9995110	Hootie "Scary" Larry Johnson Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Normal, IL Quote: Originally Posted by DomerNKC someone must have told him (probably priest) that he gets paid whether he suits up or not. I dont look for him in there any time soon...if ever. he will milk this for as long as he can, or until the chiefs get a better left tackle. oh, well, you're dumb __________________ God Bless You, Lamar Hunt. Report Post \| IP: Logged That was exactly what you said huh? __________________ Behold the bitten apple, the power of the tools, but all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools.
Posts: 22,070

12-17-2006, 10:51 PM	#98
DomerNKC In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $9995110	Hootie "Scary" Larry Johnson Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Normal, IL Green brings a lot more to the table than Huard does. A LOT MORE. I like Huard, I really do...but his batted balls are getting ridiculous...and Green is just simply better in this offense. There is a reason Huard is a backup. Report Post \| IP: Logged selective memory? __________________ Behold the bitten apple, the power of the tools, but all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools.
Posts: 22,070

12-17-2006, 10:52 PM	#99
CASHMAN ERNIE-New CHIEFS FAN!!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: OVERLAND PARK KS. Casino cash: $10004900	How do we go from the #1 O the last few years to #17 or worse under herm, didnt he say why mess with something if it isnt broke. Well he broke it.................... CASHMAN.
Posts: 1,856

12-17-2006, 11:03 PM	#105
LanceHunter Guido the killer pimp Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $10004905	how bout Carl and Herm leave , I'm tired of Carl's 5 year plan , now in the 17th year lol.
Posts: 90