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Old 12-03-2007, 10:45 AM  
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Would you buy a male toddler a little tykes kitchen?

Heard something funny about that over the weekend.
Was telling a male coworker about it and they said they bought their nephew one for Xmas last year.

Am I the only one that think it's ghey?
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:45 AM   #76
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What makes you think you have to 'teach him to be a man?'

That's my problem, I must have skipped school that day...
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:46 AM   #77
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What makes you think you have to 'teach him to be a man?'
Stop prying where there's nothing to be found.
I said, IF that was what I was trying to achieve.

I wouldn't depend on a toy to do what I should/could be doing.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:47 AM   #78
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:47 AM   #79
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I don't think you're getting it.
I don't have a problem with cooking as I have my specialty dishes myself I love making.

On the other hand... there's more resourceful toys I can choose to have my son play with that would teach him to be a man if that's what I wanted to get out of it.

Playing with freaking dishes & and ironing boards is not my idea of a toy for my boy. I learned to cook in the kitchen IN THE KITCHEN.
what does it mean to teach your son to be a man??? That's my question and that's my problem. Sure, should you teach him to cook in the kitchen - YES, definitely? But play, for children, has more to do with imagination and creativity. If it takes a toy kitchen to allow him to delve into that imagination, then why not? It's the whole "teaching him to be a man" thing that scares me..because what are those roles? what are those things you teach? You don't cook or you don't cry? You be macho and play with guns and kill things and shoot things?

OR

if I'm teaching my daughter to be a woman, "I'm sorry but you can't play with those bugs or in that dirt because that's not lady like."

JUST LET KIDS PLAY and use their creativity.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:48 AM   #80
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Stop prying where there's nothing to be found.
I said, IF that was what I was trying to achieve.

I wouldn't depend on a toy to do what I should/could be doing.
I stand corrected. I read that wrong.

However, do you think it is one of your parental obligations as a father to teach your son to 'be a man?'
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:48 AM   #81
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:49 AM   #82
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what does it mean to teach your son to be a man??? That's my question and that's my problem. Sure, should you teach him to cook in the kitchen - YES, definitely? But play, for children, has more to do with imagination and creativity. If it takes a toy kitchen to allow him to delve into that imagination, then why not? It's the whole "teaching him to be a man" thing that scares me..because what are those roles? what are those things you teach? You don't cook or you don't cry? You be macho and play with guns and kill things and shoot things?

OR

if I'm teaching my daughter to be a woman, "I'm sorry but you can't play with those bugs or in that dirt because that's not lady like."

JUST LET KIDS PLAY and use their creativity.
Settle down, woman. Jeez...
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:51 AM   #83
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Settle down, woman. Jeez...
ah, I know...women are so emotional!
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:52 AM   #84
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I think cooking is cool actually. That being said I could think of a bunch things I would get ahead of that. That would be on the things to get your boy if he already has everything list.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:53 AM   #85
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:53 AM   #86
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I stand corrected. I read that wrong.

However, do you think it is one of your parental obligations as a father to teach your son to 'be a man?'
Man means more moral than shovenist (as you're probably suggesting).

Teaching him things like PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY etc is part of being a parent... wouldn't you agree?

It's not gender specific I guess. I guess it'd be teaching my daughters to be women.

Maybe I should've said well rounded and responsible.

Having said that... I wouldn't buy ANY of my kids a toy gun.
Wouldn't buy my boy a Barbie or kitchen.
Wouldn't buy my girls a toy lawn mower.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:55 AM   #87
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Man means more moral than shovenist (as you're probably suggesting).

Teaching him things like PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY etc is part of being a parent... wouldn't you agree?

It's not gender specific I guess. I guess it'd be teaching my daughters to be women.

Maybe I should've said well rounded and responsible.

Having said that... I wouldn't buy ANY of my kids a toy gun.
Wouldn't buy my boy a Barbie or kitchen.
Wouldn't buy my girls a toy lawn mower.
wouldn't buy him a Barbie or a kitchen?
Wouldn't buy her a lawn mower?

Is this because you're doing your best to debunk the gender roles already placed on those toys? Or is it some other reason?

I'm not setting you up, I'm just curious.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:56 AM   #89
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what does it mean to teach your son to be a man??? That's my question and that's my problem. Sure, should you teach him to cook in the kitchen - YES, definitely? But play, for children, has more to do with imagination and creativity. If it takes a toy kitchen to allow him to delve into that imagination, then why not? It's the whole "teaching him to be a man" thing that scares me..because what are those roles? what are those things you teach? You don't cook or you don't cry? You be macho and play with guns and kill things and shoot things?

OR

if I'm teaching my daughter to be a woman, "I'm sorry but you can't play with those bugs or in that dirt because that's not lady like."

JUST LET KIDS PLAY and use their creativity.
You're drawing your own conclusions.
I said he could play with what ever he chooses.
I'm just not going to provide an exclusive bells and whistles kitchen for him.

If he happens to play with one. So be it.
If my daughters happen to play with worms etc. so be it.

By the age of 3 my oldest was baiting her own hook with a worm.
We're not far off in the agreement category.
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