Chiefs Meet With Otah

[KC4EVER]

Chiefs | Team meets with Otah
Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:40:13 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Kansas City Chiefs met with University of Pittsburgh OT Jeff Otah Monday, March 24.

I think the chiefs hope they can grab him in the second, wich is considerable since we pick early in most rounds.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Not picking on you, but since you said it....

Why are people so hung up on Long's 1 penalty and 2 sacks?

If he got to play Michigan's schedule again this year, that might be of interest.

He has to play against 16 of the best DE's in the world. The best of the best.

It just shows where he is at his position. Joe Thomas didnt do that in college. It speaks to his readyness and ability. ---not saying he's a better all around T than Thomas...
But questions about his pass-blocking are greatly exagerrated.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I notice you keep mentioning Gholston, but avoid mentioning Dorsey or Ellis.....

mentioned somewhere above.

Man its hard to keep up with the flying posts!

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not fine with reaching for Clady or Otah based on need, when we'd be passing on some combination of Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, etc.

Not one single person on this board has even implied taking Otah at #5, not one, so drop that please. You've beat it to death. If anyone wants Otah, it's on a trade down scenario.

As for Clady, I guess if you consider that a reach, but whatever.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by melbar

It just shows where he is at his position. Joe Thomas didnt do that in college. It speaks to his readyness and ability. ---not saying he's a better all around T than Thomas...
But questions about his pass-blocking are greatly exagerrated.

Exaggerated?

His footwork is awkward.

When he has to go against Sean Phillips ot Dwight Freeny, that's going to be a big problem.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by melbar

It just shows where he is at his position. Joe Thomas didnt do that in college. It speaks to his readyness and ability. ---not saying he's a better all around T than Thomas...
But questions about his pass-blocking are greatly exagerrated.

Joe Thomas is also more athletic and can handle speed rushers, there is serious debate as to whether Long can do that or not....

If Long can't handle speed rushers and ends up on the right side which is basically everything his game is, he becomes a wasted pick in the top 5.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by milkman

Exaggerated?

His footwork is awkward.

When he has to go against Sean Phillips ot Dwight Freeny, that's going to be a big problem.

It's that whole people go "oh Gholston was 1 game" well in the NFL you face guys like him, even better every single week...a LT that struggles with speed rushers is a liability.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Not one single person on this board has even implied taking Otah at #5, not one, so drop that please. You've beat it to death. If anyone wants Otah, it's on a trade down scenario.

As for Clady, I guess if you consider that a reach, but whatever.

Here's how I look at it.

There are elite prospects at the the top of the board.

The 2 Longs, Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, Mcfadden, and Ryan.

Clady is in the next level.

If you select a guy that isn't in that elite prospect category, then he absolutely is a reach.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Not one single person on this board has even implied taking Otah at #5, not one, so drop that please. You've beat it to death. If anyone wants Otah, it's on a trade down scenario.

As for Clady, I guess if you consider that a reach, but whatever.

You need to go read DraftPlanet if you actually believe no one is advocating taking Otah at 5.

After his name popped up on a mock draft at 5, people started trying to justify it.

And Clady IS a reach if Dorsey or Ellis ( or even Matt Ryan) are still on the board.

[Mecca]

I'll give people a quick newsflash here......if you see Ryan Clady listed as the 8th,9th or 10th best player on a draft board and then say taking him at 5 isn't a reach, that makes you not very bright.

In the top 5 the difference in a reach and good value can be 1 pick, this isn't the difference in the 5th and 6th round.

[Brock]

easyb said he'd take Otah and said he'd prefer a trade down. I'm not sure if that means he'd require a trade down or not.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Brock

I'm not against drafting offensive linemen. I'm against reaching for need and not taking the best player you can get.

Do you consider Jake Long at 5, Clady at (say) 10 or Otah at (say) 17 reaches?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

If a 5th year wide receiver had 70 catches, 995 yards, and 5 touchdowns you would call him good.

Only if he played for another team than the Chiefs.

[Mecca]

If you advocate trading out of 5 with a top 5 rated player on the board to take Clady at 10 just because he's an OT then yes, because it just placates position ahead of player.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Do you consider Jake Long at 5, Clady at (say) 10 or Otah at (say) 17 reaches?

Not necessarily. They may not be the best players you could get at those spots though.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Only if he played for another team than the Chiefs.

Or if he'd done it more than once.