For all of you that don't think Autism is related to Vaccines - Page 2

BIG_DADDY · 04-09-2008, 04:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxIVHtbGiUw

Everyone I know with a child who has autism with the exception of one is the same way. Now go ahead and quote the AMA and the CDC now, they are looking out for you and your child. Ignore the tons of people right in front of you that are telling exactly what happened to their kid. For the billionth time I don't know what it is about the vaccines that is doing this for sure but it is what it is doing, period. There is no debate here just bunch of people working for big pharm out there putting out disinformation for the masses so they can continue making their BIG $$$$$.

**luv** · 04-09-2008, 06:22 PM

My nephew did not receive all of his immunizations at once, and he has autism.

Floridafan · 04-09-2008, 07:26 PM

I have four kids and never had any immunized. They got into Missouri public schools no problem just signing the form. Same here in Florida where they finished school.

It's the heavy metals in the vaccines.

Doctor in Chicago having great results chelating the metals out of the brains of these kids. You will never hear about him or his results because of the powers that be.

melbar · 04-09-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I've heard that many people believe mercury content in some vaccines may have contributed to autism. We made certain the mercury content had been eliminated from all our daughter's vaccines.

We watched it happen to our best friends son. Complete sentences till his shot. Our son had some preliminary Autism signs like tip-toeing all the time, and getting completely wrapped up in spinning wheels, etc. I think learning from their experience saved him. There are laws in some states pending and some that have passed to remove the mercury from the shots. Waiting for the child to pass 3yrs before getting vaccinated eliminates the risk.

**wazu** · 04-09-2008, 08:43 PM

I have a friend who had the same thing happen. His kid got the MMR vaccine at 18 months, suddenly got sick, and then went silent. Went from being gregarious and talking to full-blown severe autism. When he told me about it, he had not heard of any correllation between the shots and the autism, but mentioned to me that he had been wondering about it because the timing was so dead-on. I googled it and found stories all over the place of the same thing, so I let him know.

The thing is, I understand that there is no scientific proof yet. What bothered me so much and why I delayed letting my sons get the MMR was that the whole point of a vaccine is to avoid problems, not create new, life-crippling problems. Doctors I talked to dismissed it immediately, and seemed to have a chip on their shoulders about it.

I finally decided I'd rather risk a dangerous disease than to get the shot while they are still so young and always blame myself if something happened. This basically meant getting the shot at 3 instead of at 1, and by then they had removed the thimerisol (mercury) binding agent. My youngest will get the shot next year just before his 4th birthday. I have to admit being a little uneasy about it already.

Swanman · 04-09-2008, 08:49 PM

I've been out of the loop with the vaccination stuff because I don't have kids yet, but I found out that they now vaccinate for chicken pox. Why?

stlchiefs · 04-09-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

I've been out of the loop with the vaccination stuff because I don't have kids yet, but I found out that they now vaccinate for chicken pox. Why?

I didn't realize that either. That's like a right of passage as a child. Not to mention you get to stay home for a week or so from school.

Swanman · 04-09-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stlchiefs

I didn't realize that either. That's like a right of passage as a child. Not to mention you get to stay home for a week or so from school.

It certainly was a rite of passage. I got my Atari 2600 when I got chicken pox, so I got to stay home from school for a week and play some sweet video games on a 13" black and white tv.

Seems to me that immunizing against a fairly harmless disease will do nothing more than force it to mutate and become not so harmless.

**wazu** · 04-09-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

I've been out of the loop with the vaccination stuff because I don't have kids yet, but I found out that they now vaccinate for chicken pox. Why?

I wondered the same thing. The doctor finally scared us into it by talking about how now there are some really viscious skin infections that come on top of Chickenpox and cause much more serious problems.

We initially avoided this one in addition to the MMR, but finally decided to go ahead and get it done once they were a little older.

Bill Lundberg · 04-09-2008, 09:02 PM

There is a school of thought that believes the genetic make up for Autism is already present, it's something in the vaccination that triggers that gene in Autistic children.

We grilled our pediatrician pretty hard on the subject and after listening to his reasoning we decided to go forward with the vaccines. His office doesn't use any Mercury or thimerosal in their vaccines. There are no preservatives added to the vaccines we received.

Bill Lundberg · 04-09-2008, 09:04 PM

Truthfully I don't think anyone knows for sure. I know one thing, if the Government knew for a fact that there was no link they certainly wouldn't have a billion dollar fund set aside to assist those with autistic children.

Mosbonian · 04-09-2008, 10:09 PM

Since there seems to be an agenda here, let me provide a little bit of balance from someone who is living the life.

Both my son and daughter have been given the same set of vaccinations, in the same dosages, at the same intervals. Not one iota of difference!

My son who is soon to be 16 suffers from Asperger's.....my daughter who is 12 does not. So how can one explain the difference?

mmaddog
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tiptap · 04-09-2008, 10:24 PM

Why are boys affected in such larger numbers than girls if the only vector is the vaccine?

ArrowheadHawk · 04-09-2008, 11:07 PM

Vaccines also save lives.

04-09-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaddog

Since there seems to be an agenda here, let me provide a little bit of balance from someone who is living the life.

Both my son and daughter have been given the same set of vaccinations, in the same dosages, at the same intervals. Not one iota of difference!

My son who is soon to be 16 suffers from Asperger's.....my daughter who is 12 does not. So how can one explain the difference?

mmaddog
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To my knowledge boys and girls receive different vaccinations because they're each subject to different health risks. So, I don't think they were given identical sets of vaccinations. As you know, I'm no health professional so I could be mistaken.

Mosbonian · 04-09-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

To my knowledge boys and girls receive different vaccinations because they're each subject to different health risks. So, I don't think they were given identical sets of vaccinations. As you know, I'm no health professional so I could be mistaken.

You are correct to a degree...some vaccinations do differ, but not all. And the vaccinations in question do not differ in dosage for boys or girls.

mmaddog
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04-09-2008, 04:05 PM
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04-09-2008, 06:22 PM	#16
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04-09-2008, 07:26 PM	#17
Floridafan Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Casino cash: $9846623	I have four kids and never had any immunized. They got into Missouri public schools no problem just signing the form. Same here in Florida where they finished school. It's the heavy metals in the vaccines. Doctor in Chicago having great results chelating the metals out of the brains of these kids. You will never hear about him or his results because of the powers that be. Last edited by Floridafan; 04-09-2008 at 07:39 PM..
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04-09-2008, 08:43 PM	#19
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1697705 VARSITY	I have a friend who had the same thing happen. His kid got the MMR vaccine at 18 months, suddenly got sick, and then went silent. Went from being gregarious and talking to full-blown severe autism. When he told me about it, he had not heard of any correllation between the shots and the autism, but mentioned to me that he had been wondering about it because the timing was so dead-on. I googled it and found stories all over the place of the same thing, so I let him know. The thing is, I understand that there is no scientific proof yet. What bothered me so much and why I delayed letting my sons get the MMR was that the whole point of a vaccine is to avoid problems, not create new, life-crippling problems. Doctors I talked to dismissed it immediately, and seemed to have a chip on their shoulders about it. I finally decided I'd rather risk a dangerous disease than to get the shot while they are still so young and always blame myself if something happened. This basically meant getting the shot at 3 instead of at 1, and by then they had removed the thimerisol (mercury) binding agent. My youngest will get the shot next year just before his 4th birthday. I have to admit being a little uneasy about it already.
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04-09-2008, 08:49 PM	#20
Swanman It's a league game, Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Itasca, IL Casino cash: $9967354	I've been out of the loop with the vaccination stuff because I don't have kids yet, but I found out that they now vaccinate for chicken pox. Why?
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04-09-2008, 09:02 PM	#24
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	There is a school of thought that believes the genetic make up for Autism is already present, it's something in the vaccination that triggers that gene in Autistic children. We grilled our pediatrician pretty hard on the subject and after listening to his reasoning we decided to go forward with the vaccines. His office doesn't use any Mercury or thimerosal in their vaccines. There are no preservatives added to the vaccines we received.
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04-09-2008, 09:04 PM	#25
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	Truthfully I don't think anyone knows for sure. I know one thing, if the Government knew for a fact that there was no link they certainly wouldn't have a billion dollar fund set aside to assist those with autistic children.
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04-09-2008, 10:09 PM	#26
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1330300	Since there seems to be an agenda here, let me provide a little bit of balance from someone who is living the life. Both my son and daughter have been given the same set of vaccinations, in the same dosages, at the same intervals. Not one iota of difference! My son who is soon to be 16 suffers from Asperger's.....my daughter who is 12 does not. So how can one explain the difference? mmaddog *******
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04-09-2008, 10:24 PM	#27
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