THE FACTS about Kansas Jayhawks and Their Road to the Championship - Page 5

ChiefsFanatic · 04-09-2008, 11:18 PM

I have heard people talk about how easy our road to the Final Four and the Championship was. How UCLA, North Carolina and Memphis had to play better teams. I know these people are haters, and we are the National Champions, but I looked into the truth about our path to greatness, and this is what I discovered.

The teams we beat had an overall record of 175 - 43. I think that is about an %80 winning percenatge. Using espn.com for reference, here are some more facts.

Portland State (23-10)- Big Sky Conference Champions

UNLV (27-8)- Mountain West Tournament Champions

Villanova (22-13)- Finished season ranked #24 in the country (and were a 12 seed)

Davidson (29-7)- The Southern Conference Champs(undefeated in conference) - Finished the season ranked #9 (and were a 10 seed) They beat the West Coast Conference Champs (Gonzaga)in the NCAA Tournament, they beat the Big East Conference Champs (Georgetown)in the NCAA Tournament, and they beat the Big 10 Conference Champs (Wisconsin)in the NCAA Tournament

North Carolina (36-3)- The ACC Conference Champions - Finished the season ranked #3

Memphis (38-2)- Conference USA Champions (undefeated in conference)- Set record for most wins in a season - Finished the season ranked #2.

Out of 6 games, we beat 4 Top 25 teams (3 in the Top Ten) and the other two were a combined 50-18 and were either regular season Conference Champs (Portland State) or post-season Conference Tournament Champs (UNLV.) The only team we played that was not a Conference Champ was Villanova, and they finished the season ranked #24 http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings?poll=2

That is definately not an easy road, and actually looks quite impressive when laid out.

So, in conclusion, ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK

ChiefsFanatic · 04-10-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Trust me, he didn't have his foot on the line. After them reducing the 3 to a 2 for Memphis earlier in the game, I wouldn't allow myself to get to pumped about Chalmer's shot, until I was sure. I replayed it a few times myself to make sure.

That was exactly my reaction, I screamed and yelled, but then I was immediately worried that they would review it.

ChiefsFanatic · 04-10-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

and then the instant reaction of the Jayhawks to play defense after the shot instead of any sort of celebrating.

I have seen a lot of teams celebrate a shot like that, but it was almost like the Jayhawk players expected it to go in. It makes me think back to Bill's speech before the UNC game, where he told the players to expect good things to happen and they would.

Also, as the shot is in the air, it appears that Mario goes into his patented back pedal. He said over and over that he knew it was good the moment it left his fingers.

**Skip Towne** · 04-10-2008, 02:07 PM

It says on the

board that Self has a press conference at 4:00 PM CST

Silock · 04-10-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I am trying to find a pic of Chalmers last shot in regulation that shows where his feet were when he jumped. There is some idiot on another bb that thinks his foot was on the line. I have searched and searched everywhere that I can think and can't find a pic. Anyone else have a pic of that shot?

If his foot were on the line, it'd have been all over the news.

Silock · 04-10-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by markk

are there better pictures somewhere? i can see better than that blurry one after a whole bottle of crown. you can't really tell where his right foot is

The 3-point line isn't obscured at all, so how could his foot be on it?

**Lzen** · 04-10-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

If his foot were on the line, it'd have been all over the news.

I know that, you know that, the Kansas Jayhawks and Memphis Tigers know that. Hell, pretty much the whole country knows that. But there is this poster (goes by the handle Hawk Hater) on another bb that I have been on for years who actually suggested that. He is also hanging onto the fact that KU supposedly had the easiest road ever to the Final Four by playing all those lower seeds.

His latest deal is suggesting that the game was fixed.

Silock · 04-10-2008, 02:27 PM

I think he's just trolling you.

ChiefsFanatic · 04-10-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I know that, you know that, the Kansas Jayhawks and Memphis Tigers know that. Hell, pretty much the whole country knows that. But there is this poster (goes by the handle Hawk Hater) on another bb that I have been on for years who actually suggested that. He is also hanging onto the fact that KU supposedly had the easiest road ever to the Final Four by playing all those lower seeds.

His latest deal is suggesting that the game was fixed.

I hope you shared my OP with him.

**Bob Dole** · 04-10-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by markk

are there better pictures somewhere? i can see better than that blurry one after a whole bottle of crown. you can't really tell where his right foot is

Bob Dole spent almost 45 seconds of his valuable time creating that one. If it's not good enough, too bad.

**Lzen** · 04-10-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

I think he's just trolling you.

Of that, I have no doubt. I have told him that many times over the years (been on that bb for about 7 years or so). Still, I like to rub the facts in his face.

**Lzen** · 04-10-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I hope you shared my OP with him.

Yep.

ChiefsFanatic · 04-10-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Yep.

Thanks. Since I am out of work, I had some time on my hands, and if the info helps anyone, I am glad.

ChiefsFanatic · 04-10-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 88-31-10

Wonder if Lew's gonna pick up the tab for lunch?

Doesn't he seem like he has probably wacked a few people in his day? Or at least duct taped them and stuffed them in a trunk.

CoMoChief · 04-10-2008, 08:05 PM

I don't really see how anyone can disagree with the fact that KU had some cards fall their way a little bit. Sometimes the best team doesn't win. I don't think Davidson would have finished anywhere in the top 5-6 in the Big East. I think Gtown would have presented a tougher matchup for KU. Same being said for Wisc. But hey they couldn't win the games they were supposed to and they got knocked out.

Now if KU played like they did in the Final 4 they would have easily gone undefeated. They played their best bball when they had to, which is the most important.

Reerun_KC · 04-10-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I don't really see how anyone can disagree with the fact that KU had some cards fall their way a little bit. Sometimes the best team doesn't win. I don't think Davidson would have finished anywhere in the top 5-6 in the Big East. I think Gtown would have presented a tougher matchup for KU. Same being said for Wisc. But hey they couldn't win the games they were supposed to and they got knocked out.

Now if KU played like they did in the Final 4 they would have easily gone undefeated. They played their best bball when they had to, which is the most important.

I just want to thank Sasha Kaun.. without him no championship for KU.

04-09-2008, 11:18 PM
ChiefsFanatic DeadPunisher Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014 Casino cash: $209205	THE FACTS about Kansas Jayhawks and Their Road to the Championship I have heard people talk about how easy our road to the Final Four and the Championship was. How UCLA, North Carolina and Memphis had to play better teams. I know these people are haters, and we are the National Champions, but I looked into the truth about our path to greatness, and this is what I discovered. The teams we beat had an overall record of 175 - 43. I think that is about an %80 winning percenatge. Using espn.com for reference, here are some more facts. Portland State (23-10)- Big Sky Conference Champions UNLV (27-8)- Mountain West Tournament Champions Villanova (22-13)- Finished season ranked *#24* in the country (and were a 12 seed) Davidson (29-7)- The Southern Conference Champs(undefeated in conference) - Finished the season ranked #9 (and were a 10 seed) They beat the West Coast Conference Champs (Gonzaga)in the NCAA Tournament, they beat the Big East Conference Champs (Georgetown)in the NCAA Tournament, and they beat the Big 10 Conference Champs (Wisconsin)in the NCAA Tournament North Carolina (36-3)- The ACC Conference Champions - Finished the season ranked #3 Memphis (38-2)- Conference USA Champions *(undefeated in conference)- Set record for most wins in a season - Finished the season ranked #2.* Out of 6 games, we beat 4 Top 25 teams (3 in the Top Ten) and the other two were a combined 50-18 and were either regular season Conference Champs (Portland State) or post-season Conference Tournament Champs (UNLV.) The only team we played that was not a Conference Champ was Villanova, and they finished the season ranked #24 http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings?poll=2 That is definately not an easy road, and actually looks quite impressive when laid out. So, in conclusion, ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	I don't really see how anyone can disagree with the fact that KU had some cards fall their way a little bit. Sometimes the best team doesn't win. I don't think Davidson would have finished anywhere in the top 5-6 in the Big East. I think Gtown would have presented a tougher matchup for KU. Same being said for Wisc. But hey they couldn't win the games they were supposed to and they got knocked out. Now if KU played like they did in the Final 4 they would have easily gone undefeated. They played their best bball when they had to, which is the most important. __________________
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