Chiefs Possible Chiefs\Saints trade - Page 11

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM

McShay's blog...

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

DT58HOF · 04-25-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

I am being serious. I wouldn't trade down unless we prison raped whoever traded with us.

So if someone went Herschel Walker on us then yes, I'd be willing to trade down, otherwise draft Gholston, Dorsey, Ellis, Long or Ryan.

are u an idiot? we get a pro bowl tackle drop 5 picks get a DE and we still pick at 17, we get 3 1st round players instead of 2
now with pick #35 Brian Brohm might still be there
hell we could get 4 starters and we still havent got to round 3 yet,lol

**alanm** · 04-25-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

This could be a "butts in the seats" move by Saints since Dorsey is an LSU Tiger....

Bingo. But I would think that they would pursue a trade with St Louis instead of KC. I still think Atlanta will take Ryan.

DT58HOF · 04-25-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

It's unrealistic because I DO NOT WANT US TO TRADE DOWN.
I would have thought that was obvious.....

have you lost ur mind?
we will get a pro bowl OT plus we still get to pick 10,17
so it's almost free, they wanted to move back anyways.
There is no OT left that is better right now then Jammal Brown,
so we are getting a free first rounder that has only played like 3 years
this would be the biggest steal for the chiefs ever, the rebuild might only take a year. We could maybe get 4-7 starters from this draft.

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 07:50 PM

There must be something about Brown, if he was "that" good they wouldn't be trying to move him, there has to be something there.

**alanm** · 04-25-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Then we'd still win 2 games and they'd wonder why.

It would be because we can't stop the run or pass because we still wouldn't be getting any kind of push on the defensive line.

Dorsey or Ellis please Carl and Herm.

Brock · 04-25-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DT58HOF

have you lost ur mind?
we will get a pro bowl OT plus we still get to pick 10,17
so it's almost free, they wanted to move back anyways.
There is no OT left that is better right now then Jammal Brown,
so we are getting a free first rounder that has only played like 3 years
this would be the biggest steal for the chiefs ever, the rebuild might only take a year. We could maybe get 4-7 starters from this draft.

You're assuming there's nothing wrong with Brown. There must be, or they wouldn't be trading him.

**007** · 04-25-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There must be something about Brown, if he was "that" good they wouldn't be trying to move him, there has to be something there.

That is exactly how I am feeling about it as well. Just seems too good.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2008, 07:52 PM

However, not that I think we'll even really get Brown and the 10th pick straight up for the #5. (probably give up a 4th or something like that if it would go down)

Ironically, we would be making trades with the Vikings and Saints, who have the probably the worst to draft trades of all time in Walker and Williams.

History repeating itself... I can handle that.

Sidenote: If Brohm is still available towards the late 1st round, I would totally give up some picks to move up to the end of the draft to get him, b/c I don't see him sticking around with Miami and Atlanta picking ahead of us in the 2nd.

Messier · 04-25-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You're assuming there's nothing wrong with Brown. There must be, or they wouldn't be trading him.

Then no team would take the deal. You can't trade a bum player. All teams have these players examined to make sure they are fine. Either that or they make darn sure their injuries aren't career ending, or even make them miss any time.

DT58HOF · 04-25-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

That is exactly how I am feeling about it as well. Just seems too good.

well even if they make the trade and he is hurt worse than they are saying the NFL would compensate us for the player if they knowingly trade a hurt player without disclosing it to the Chiefs.

And Brown on his knees is better than what we have had the past few years, i would rather see him on his knees than our QB on his back.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There must be something about Brown, if he was "that" good they wouldn't be trying to move him, there has to be something there.

How can you make this assumption? We crap on our team's front office for not having a clue, and you expect them to make every move soundly.

I know we got Roaf at a bargain b/c of this outside circumstances, but never underestimate other teams letting players go that just don't fit in for their needs...

Horn worked for them- we didn't see the value
Holmes...
Farve...
Hasty...
Gannon...
Green...

Trust me, the list can go on and on, and I respect you more than most on this board in your NFL accumen.

Brock · 04-25-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Then no team would take the deal. You can't trade a bum player. All teams have these players examined to make sure they are fine. Either that or they make darn sure their injuries aren't career ending, or even make them miss any time.

It isn't necessarily a physical problem.

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 07:57 PM

A team wouldn't trade a mid 20s LT for no reason.......he has to have some issue, either that or they think he's not that good.

**Skip Towne** · 04-25-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A team wouldn't trade a mid 20s LT for no reason.......he has to have some issue, either that or they think he's not that good.

Why did they let us have Willie Roaf?

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A team wouldn't trade a mid 20s LT for no reason.......he has to have some issue, either that or they think he's not that good.

True or just maybe they feel they can replace him with current a player.

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