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Old 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM  
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Let's put all the QB talk right here
Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:38 AM   #91
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Bradford is more polished and much closer to a finished product..if you have a competent coach that can teach Stafford footwork and base stuff think of what he'll be then.

Stafford is far and away more physically gifted.....Bradford is safe but I don't think he'll ever be elite....Stafford on the other hand is a bit riskier but he grew up idolizing Elway and does possess some of those skills.
While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:39 AM   #92
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Other than alot of guys with shitty 40's have become good players where as I can't think of 1 QB under 6' tall that was ever a meaningful QB.
You know that people played football before 1985, right?...
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:40 AM   #93
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While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."
But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:41 AM   #94
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You know that people played football before 1985, right?...
The game is also alot different now than it was then.....I know people love old timer talk but the early days of football didn't feature 250lb LB's that run 4.4s
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Ok, explain to me again why 2-4 inches can make or break a (non-porn) career.

Then explain why mobility can't overcome that.

And FTR I'm not saying I want us to draft him, only that it's a measurable like a sub-par 40 time...
In the end, a QB has to be able stand in the pocket and use the entire field.

Moving a QB outside the pocket limits him to half the field, and good defenses can take that half away from the QB.
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Oh, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't trade almost every QB the Chiefs have trotted out there over the years.

I'm just saying he was somewhat overrated.

But that wasn't even the point of the post to begin with.

McNair serves as a blueprint on how to develop QBs-
Stop right there.

There we are in complete agreement.

Slowly inch the guy along, feed him more as he's able to digest, and give him the time he needs to take it all in before throwing him out there.
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Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.
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Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.
So are all the really bad ones.
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If Chase Daniel wants to make it in the NFL I'd tell him to shoot up a bunch of HGH and hope he grows a few inches.
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But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.
It depends on how it all shakes out. It maybe that the NFL is closing in on an agreement to slot rookies. If they do, I suspect Bradford would come out this year, because he's smart.
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It depends on how it all shakes out. It maybe that the NFL is closing in on an agreement to slot rookies. If they do, I suspect Bradford would come out this year, because he's smart.
If that happens everyone is coming out....but I haven't seen Bradford on any board basically no one thinks he's coming out.
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So are all the really bad ones.
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If that happens everyone is coming out....but I haven't seen Bradford on any board basically no one thinks he's coming out.
If we have the #1 pick, what are the rules about us contacting players who may potentially come out?
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If we have the #1 pick, what are the rules about us contacting players who may potentially come out?
That would be against the rules I believe..players have a window to decide if they are coming out or not, and a date they can change their mind by if they don't hire an agent.

I think there's a good chance Stafford would have the higher grade even if he was in the draft with Bradford.
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