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Old 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM  
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Let's put all the QB talk right here
Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:27 PM   #196
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Bradford - Brady/Romo
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Stafford - Palmer/Cutler/Eli Manning
Freeman - Culpepper
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:27 PM   #197
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Scary thing is, he's probably not right.

The Chiefs, much like a few of these fans will do the myopic thing and take Michael Oher.
No knowing the Chiefs it will be Andre Smith.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:31 PM   #198
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Scary thing is, he's probably not right.

The Chiefs, much like a few of these fans will do the myopic thing and take Michael Oher.
that would be a disaster

getting a qb is THE ONLY PRIORITY


everything else is second, a distant second

you can not pass on stafford....you can not go 1-15 and not draft a god damn qb after playing thigpen and huard...

then, after drafting a qb, you do EVERYTHING to create an environment in which he can succeed....get a good qb coach, draft a wr, ol, and spend in FA for more wrs and ol...other people have made this point and i totally agree
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:32 PM   #199
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getting the RIGHT qb is THE ONLY PRIORITY
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:33 PM   #200
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that would be a disaster

getting a qb is THE ONLY PRIORITY


everything else is second, a distant second

you can not pass on stafford....you can not go 1-15 and not draft a god damn qb after playing thigpen and huard...

then, after drafting a qb, you do EVERYTHING to create an environment in which he can succeed....get a good qb coach, draft a wr, ol, and spend in FA for more wrs and ol...other people have made this point and i totally agree
and you find an oc who will run an offense that maximizes the qbs strengths....
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:33 PM   #201
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:34 PM   #202
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I'm just saying, if Oher grades out like Willie Roaf, and Stafford grades out like, say, Brady Quinn, then the decision becomes something other than what you're hoping for.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:35 PM   #204
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I don't agree with this at all. It may appear like Bradford throws a better ball, but it's because he throws more short passes and is in an offense that helps him have a completion percentage of 80%.

Also, I'm not sure how much you've seen of Stafford this year, but I've literally seen every game and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, he makes a few passes each game that no one else in the country could make.
I've seen a couple games. My exposure is pretty limited due to geography. However, Bradford threw a multitude of passes last year perfectly from 50-60 yards. Stafford, from what I've seen, is not nearly as accurate.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:36 PM   #205
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I'm just saying, if Oher grades out like Willie Roaf, and Stafford grades out like, say, Brady Quinn, then the decision becomes something other than what you're hoping for.
If Stafford was Brady Quinn I wouldnt have no problem with the pick, but he is not. Any other team besides the Raiders would have took Quinn #1.
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and you find an oc who will run an offense that maximizes the qbs strengths....
I really believe that we actually have that OC.

What we need is a HC that alllows him to do just that.
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I'm just saying, if Oher grades out like Willie Roaf, and Stafford grades out like, say, Brady Quinn, then the decision becomes something other than what you're hoping for.
in this instance, i don't agree

we either take a qb this year or go back to signing vet trash....the odds of back to back top 5 picks are slim even for us, can you really plan for that outcome?

and personally, i already like stafford more than quinn, but just my opinion...
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Agreed.

I believe that we already have a couple of guys that would upgrade the OL, in Taylor and Richardson.

My plan, right now, would be to draft Stafford in the first, Selvie or Spikes in the second ( I believe one of these will be there at the top of the second round), and maybe a guy like Alex Mack in the third.
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If Stafford was Brady Quinn I wouldnt have no problem with the pick, but he is not. Any other team besides the Raiders would have took Quinn #1.
That's not quite accurate as 21 teams passed on Quinn.
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That's not quite accurate as 21 teams passed on Quinn.
Who needed a QB?
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