Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Time to make some decisions, folks.

No lists, pick ONE GM.

PLEASE make this realistic. A current GM making a lateral move is not realistic.

Also: Pick a HC that you think would be a realistic choice of your GM.

Post bios if you wish.



I'll start:


GM: Eric DeCosta, 37, Director Of College Scouting, Baltimore Ravens.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...c_DeCosta.aspx


HC: Rex Ryan, 46, Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, Baltimore Ravens.


http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl.../Rex_Ryan.aspx

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

GM - Eric DeCosta
Head Coach - Jim Schwartz (they worked together in Baltimore)

I like Schwartz bc he worked in Cleveland, Baltimore, and Tennessee. He was a position coach in Baltimore at linebacker when Ray Lewis and Peter Boulware were rookies. Moved Tennessee helped get them to the Super Bowl. Got promoted to Defensive Coordinator and helped the development of Haynesworth and Bulluck.

This.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Laz

President - Scott Pioli
General Manager - Chris Polian
Head Coach - Bill Cowher
offensive coordinator - Cam Cameron
defensive coordinator - Mike Singletary

I'd keep Chan. Outside of that I'm all for you and Clark sitting down over lunch to discuss a winning front office...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm saying that I think it's interesting that lots of other teams have known about Ryan for years, but nobody's approached him for an interview. Seems a lot like Monte Kiffin, Jim Johnson, and Al Saunders. These seem to be guys that GMs believe are real good coordinators who wouldn't be or wouldn't want to be good head coaches.

I got what you mean't.

But your wording, using "other GMs" left the implication that you yourself were/are a GM.
I know that isn't what you mean't.
I just found it funny and had to comment.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by H5N1

this is exactly what's wrong with this goddamned fanbase. it's all fanboys who don't give a shit whether we win or lose, it's about the 'arrowhead mystique'--look: the arrowhead mystique is ****ing dead. it's been dead for a few years now. it died with marty, methinks, and got revived for about five minutes with dick-head-coach-vermiel. it's gone. do we need to have a funeral for it so you dumbasses can mourn? I'll give you three minutes to weep silently before we get back on topic.

so, back. it's dead. deal with it. the REST of the nfl (save a few other bottom dwellers) have moved on--homefield advantage means precious little these days. you know that matters? WINS IN THE PLAYOFFS. if you WIN, more people will SHOW UP. it's a simple equation:

W(2P+R)=A

and this "negative nancy" crap has taken over Chiefsplanet. I think that is more "what's wrong" than anyone having some positive hopes. Just because you disagree with his opinion he gets bashed over the head by you and called a dumbass by another.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

and this "negative nancy" crap has taken over Chiefsplanet. I think that is more "what's wrong" than anyone having some positive hopes. Just because you disagree with his opinion he gets bashed over the head by you and called a dumbass by another.

here, disagree with this:

last playoff win: 1993

that's fifteen years. I'm 25 years old. I was ten years old the last playoff win--****, aren't you younger than me? I can't recall. doesn't matter.

I'll be the first person to be optimistic if THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT. have you WATCHED the chiefs lately? we're HORRIBLE.

it has nothing to do with being a 'negative nancy.' it has EVERYTHING to do with people holding onto the adages of a by-gone era. and it's gone. if you want to have positive hopes, PLEASE have a REASON to have positive hopes.

I remember a very specific time when I was younger that my dad was like this--and I didn't understand it then, but I do perfectly now.

the chiefs were playing the giants in the meadowlands. we were down big in the second quarter. he left the room in disgust and went to go mow the lawn. before he left, though, we had an argument. I pounded my fists like the preteen douche I was and said 'the chiefs can win! they can come back!' completely optimistic that the chiefs could overcome all odds and win a meaningless game.

my dad was realistic--he said 'there's no way' and went about his day

I'm like that these days. SOME of you still believe. it's like believing in santa claus--he's still coming for some of you. the rest of us in realism land have no delusions about this team.

I remember crying my eyes out after the 1995 playoff loss to the colts. I remember going on my first cussing tirade after the 1997 playoff loss to the broncos.

I, for one, and SICK TO ****ING DEATH of putting up with 'not quite good enough'--it's ALL this ****ing organization feeds to us. if you want to be spoon-fed bullshit? that's fine with me. I'm all for putting their ****ing heads under the guillotine and MAYBE building a team that's in it for the long haul.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by H5N1

here, disagree with this:

last playoff win: 1993

that's fifteen years. I'm 25 years old. I was ten years old the last playoff win--****, aren't you younger than me? I can't recall. doesn't matter.

I'll be the first person to be optimistic if THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT. have you WATCHED the chiefs lately? we're HORRIBLE.

Yeah, but we didn't have to be.

Our defensive coaches could teach players to tackle WITH THEIR ARMS. WRAP UP and foget this power-shoulder-ESPN-highlight-woo-hit-bull$#it.

You can do that. You tell the next guy in the secondary who pulls a "Wesley whiff" that he's sitting the following week. You hit and wrap up.

Short story is we play sloppy, we keep playing sloppy, and we've lost games we could have and should have won. Even with this rebuild rookie-infused roster.

We underachieved HUGE...

Originally Posted by H5N1

I, for one, and SICK TO ****ING DEATH of putting up with 'not quite good enough'--it's ALL this ****ing organization feeds to us. if you want to be spoon-fed bullshit? that's fine with me. I'm all for putting their ****ing heads under the guillotine and MAYBE building a team that's in it for the long haul.

With the beheading of Marie "Peterson" Antoinette the age of failure (and pride despite incompetence) is over...

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

A charge of you're "one who sucks the penis" has led to a lot of man love in this thread.

Irony. Love it.

this place is magic

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Marty Schottenheimer - GM
Herm Edwards - HC
Chan Gailey - OC
Gunther Cunningham - DC
KCJohnny - President of Football Operations


May not please this crowd, but probably not far from possible. Would definitely fill One Arrowhead Drive on Sundays.

GO CHIEFS!

there aren't enough short yellow buses to fill the stadium for that

[reiko57]

marty and cowher

hellz ya

[chiefzilla1501]

Hamas, I'm not suggesting that 3-4 is the answer, but I don't know why you're so convinced that it won't work or that we won't get our money's worth with Dorsey. Dorsey may not make as many tackles or sacks in a 3-4, but arguably, he'd a far more valuable piece to the defense in a 3-4 than in a 4-3. He'd be one of many in a long line of impact DEs in a 3-4, from Richard Seymour to Luis Castillo to Igor Olshansky to Haloti Ngata to Aaron Smith that converted from the DT position. I would argue that Seymour, Ngata, and Smith are difference makers for their respective defenses. In that role, like his role in the 4-3 Cover 1 that you're suggesting, he would also be an assist guy--a guy responsible for multiple gaps that would free up opportunities for LBs to shoot through gaps. The only argument I could see against Dorsey playing DE in a 3-4 is that he may be a little short, but I don't think that's a particularly big obstacle.

And DJ would actually be a pretty ideal fit for an ILB, as he has the capability to both rush the passer and drop into coverage--something that you need to do both of well in a 3-4.

I don't know if it's the best option, but it's an option and it's not a ridiculous one. Especially if the Chiefs think Dorsey could be a solid 3-4 DE which I think is a definite possibility. Especially if you can lure a guy like Wade Phillips into the coordinator position.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

First of all, we already aren't in the right scheme.

I think we should play a standard 4-3 with more of a Cover 1 look that brings pressure from the backers rather than the front 4.
I think that Hali and McBride are servicable pieces on the left side in such a defense.
I think Dorsey can be an assist man for play makers. I think that Tyler should spell Dorsey and not start alongside him.
Mecca's opinion that we need a larger DT alongside Dorsey has merit, especially on the first two downs.

DJ is a downhill linebacker with speed. I don't like him as a coverage backer, and I hate him as a mike. He should be used the way he was used as a rookie. They should blitz him all over the place.

Williams is a good LB for a strong nickel, IMO.

We have pieces, we just need a playmaker at RDE. I don't want Peppers, but I'd be ok with us going after Suggs (but that probably won't happen).

I think the main problem is that the fans just aren't patient with the players. You can be impatient with the coaches and management, but these players need time, especially when the LB and DL coaches are horrendous.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by reiko57

marty and cowher

hellz ya

Kill yourself.

[Demonpenz]

marty as gm cower power at coach

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Hamas, I'm not suggesting that 3-4 is the answer, but I don't know why you're so convinced that it won't work or that we won't get our money's worth with Dorsey. Dorsey may not make as many tackles or sacks in a 3-4, but arguably, he'd a far more valuable piece to the defense in a 3-4 than in a 4-3. He'd be one of many in a long line of impact DEs in a 3-4, from Richard Seymour to Luis Castillo to Igor Olshansky to Haloti Ngata to Aaron Smith that converted from the DT position. I would argue that Seymour, Ngata, and Smith are difference makers for their respective defenses. In that role, like his role in the 4-3 Cover 1 that you're suggesting, he would also be an assist guy--a guy responsible for multiple gaps that would free up opportunities for LBs to shoot through gaps. The only argument I could see against Dorsey playing DE in a 3-4 is that he may be a little short, but I don't think that's a particularly big obstacle.

And DJ would actually be a pretty ideal fit for an ILB, as he has the capability to both rush the passer and drop into coverage--something that you need to do both of well in a 3-4.

I don't know if it's the best option, but it's an option and it's not a ridiculous one. Especially if the Chiefs think Dorsey could be a solid 3-4 DE which I think is a definite possibility. Especially if you can lure a guy like Wade Phillips into the coordinator position.

Hamas has already discussed one of the other obvious physical shortcomings of Dorsey as a 3-4 DE.

Short arms.

And why do you always post your thoughts in front of the posts you quote?

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Hamas, I'm not suggesting that 3-4 is the answer, but I don't know why you're so convinced that it won't work or that we won't get our money's worth with Dorsey. Dorsey may not make as many tackles or sacks in a 3-4, but arguably, he'd a far more valuable piece to the defense in a 3-4 than in a 4-3. He'd be one of many in a long line of impact DEs in a 3-4, from Richard Seymour to Luis Castillo to Igor Olshansky to Haloti Ngata to Aaron Smith that converted from the DT position. I would argue that Seymour, Ngata, and Smith are difference makers for their respective defenses. In that role, like his role in the 4-3 Cover 1 that you're suggesting, he would also be an assist guy--a guy responsible for multiple gaps that would free up opportunities for LBs to shoot through gaps. The only argument I could see against Dorsey playing DE in a 3-4 is that he may be a little short, but I don't think that's a particularly big obstacle.

And DJ would actually be a pretty ideal fit for an ILB, as he has the capability to both rush the passer and drop into coverage--something that you need to do both of well in a 3-4.

I don't know if it's the best option, but it's an option and it's not a ridiculous one. Especially if the Chiefs think Dorsey could be a solid 3-4 DE which I think is a definite possibility. Especially if you can lure a guy like Wade Phillips into the coordinator position.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd keep Chan. Outside of that I'm all for you and Clark sitting down over lunch to discuss a winning front office...

ditto...except for the Chan thing.