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Old 01-13-2009, 06:35 PM  
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Dorsey in the 3-4.
Is it even remotely possible?

A couple speculations out there are that Pioli wants to gravitate towards the 3-4 with our defense.

I think whatever determinations you make about our defense have to be tied into what Dorsey, by far our most expensive defensive player (Surtain about to be released), is capable of.

I think it's pretty clear Dorsey's not NT material, but might he get by as a 3-4 DE?

What are your thoughts?
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:47 PM   #16
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No.

Period.

not even worth 'trying'. Jesus.

not to mention we don't have LBs for the 3-4.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:48 PM   #17
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:48 PM   #18
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No.

Period.

not even worth 'trying'. Jesus.

not to mention we don't have LBs for the 3-4.
But we're chock full of LBs for a 4-3?
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:48 PM   #19
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No.

Period.

not even worth 'trying'. Jesus.

not to mention we don't have LBs for the 3-4.
I think we're sticking to 4-3. Schwartz, and Spagnoula, are versed in both IIRC
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:49 PM   #20
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I was thinking about this the other day. Dorsey doesn't seem to fit. I'm still confident that Dorsey is going to develop into the cornerstone for the defense. At the same time, you shouldn't scheme an entire defense around a single guy with some question marks.

So, yeah, its tough. I'm content to wait and see what Pioli and the upcoming coaching staff want to do; there is going to be some controversy either way.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:49 PM   #21
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No matter what defense this team uses we're going to need a whole new set of LB's so no one should be to worried about that.
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But we're chock full of LBs for a 4-3?
good point.

we pretty much have sh*t for LBs regardless of line/lb scheme.

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Old 01-13-2009, 06:51 PM   #23
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No matter what defense this team uses we're going to need a whole new set of LB's so no one should be to worried about that.

exactly; that's the least of our worries.


Dorsey can't even get good penetration 1 on 1 in A gap consistently.

Gonna ask him to line up heads up against a center? lol. he'll end up in the secondary once the ball is snapped.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:00 PM   #24
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My thoughts are that I'm tired of hearing people complain because we don't have the talent for a 3-4.

Newsflash: we don't have the talent for a 4-3 either. We just put up a record setting suck for sacks. And Dorsey can suck in a 3-4 just as much as he sucked in a 4-3...
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:03 PM   #25
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:24 PM   #26
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exactly; that's the least of our worries.


Dorsey can't even get good penetration 1 on 1 in A gap consistently.

Gonna ask him to line up heads up against a center? lol. he'll end up in the secondary once the ball is snapped.
Pretty sure we would need to go get a NT.. Dorsey would be a three technique...

Here is what we would basically be forced to run if we did it with the current roster...

Dorsey / Bulked up Tank / Turk

The biggest issue is a lack of a NT... Dorsey would be fine in the 3-4.. may even give him the space to be a playmaker like we thought he would be.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:27 PM   #27
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It really depends on what type of 3-4. I don't think Dorsey would work as a DE in a 2 gap scheme, but he might be able to play DE in a more aggressive 1 gap scheme like they use in Baltimore or Dallas.
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Yes, Dorsey can play DE easily in a 3-4
Thank you, I was beginning to think I was alone in that opinion
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:29 PM   #30
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I dont like the idea of having to change dorsey into a 3-4 guy, but if anyone on our team HAD to do it I would put my money on him because of his pure unrefined athletic ablility.
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