Chiefs I miss me some Will Shields - Page 3

rrl308 · 10:48 PM

He still looks like he should have the No. 68 plastered across his chest, even if he says he's not close to playing shape.

Calm and equipped with a sharp, but dry sense of humor, former Kansas City Chief lineman Will Shields raised his voice Saturday morning just a little so his target could hear him.

"I might be able to trip Grant (Wistrom) if he came off the line with my left foot, but that's about it," Shields joked at a press conference about his fellow Nebraska alumnus and former NFL defensive end.

But seeing Shields inducted into the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame on Saturday in glasses and slacks, rather than a helmet and shoulder pads, not only reminds Chiefs fans of the winning ways of the 1990s and early 2000s, but just how far away those days feel.

Shields is 37 now, two seasons removed from 12 straight Pro Bowls and 230 consecutive games played, second only to Brett Favre's current streak of 291.

And since he retired after the 2006 season, the Chiefs have stumbled with a 6-26 record and fired head coach Herm Edwards, and long-time general manager Carl Peterson resigned. The duo were replaced with GM Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley.

Shields, who still lives in Kansas City, said he thinks the Chiefs figured it out.

"I think the Chiefs are going in the right direction," Shields said. "Not saying that (Edwards) was a bad coach or (Peterson) was a bad GM. They went with rebuilding and rebuilt through players, rather than rebuilding through the company.

"That makes a big difference."

Shields sounds like a guy who's looking big picture. Renowned for his charity work throughout the Kansas City area, including winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award in 2003, the former third-round pick in 1993 has shifted his focus from keeping his quarterback's shirt clean to molding players for the next level.

Through his two 68's Inside Sports Fitness and Training Facilities in the KC area, Shields is starting to build a reputation for producing balanced football players.

While 68's still offers recreational opportunities, and workout facilities for the general public, Shields finds himself working more with high school football players, to get them ready for college, or to prepare college players for the NFL.

He wants to be the middleman.

"When (colleges or pro teams) get them in, they recruit them for their system," Shields said. "They don't prepare them beyond that. They're interested in wins and losses. I'm not.

"I want them to be the most balanced player they can be."

And he's getting serious about it.

The tone of his voice raises slightly when mentioning breaking down tape of current NFL and college systems, trying to learn the schemes. It also picks up when talk of trying to install controlled aggression in younger, more amiable players.

He said he's working with a few regional NFL hopefuls, preparing them for the combine and other pro days.

"With the loss of NFL Europe and Arena League, where can you take a kid who ran the spread and help him with power mush ball? Especially when he's already 340 pounds and he hasn't had his hand in the ground in 3 years," Shields said. "We can teach them the basics."

Plus, the training helps keep him just enough in the game, not from trying to be an NFL coach or trying to stage an on-the-field comeback.

He said he doesn't want to build any sort of training empire, but he likes it right where he is, whether it's knocking heads and pads with future NFL hopefuls or 7- and 8-year old kids at the facilities.

"I get enough football in a day. It keeps me going," Shields said.

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs...=2009902080351

**DeezNutz** · 02-08-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

You must not know how the HOF committee works.

Come on. You can joke all you want, but there far more evidence to the contrary.

DT in year 5. Sharpe and Carter (again) this year. The selection process is a ****ing joke.

Basileus777 · 02-08-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Can someone help this guy with a response?

I thought that I was culturally challenged.

Chill out.

unothadeal · 02-08-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Can someone help this guy with a response?

I thought that I was culturally challenged.

I'm not your pal, guy?

ClevelandBronco · 02-08-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Come on. You can joke all you want, but there far more evidence to the contrary.

DT in year 5. Sharpe and Carter (again) this year. The selection process is a ****ing joke.

Two words: Randy Gradishar.

**doomy3** · 02-08-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Come on. You can joke all you want, but there far more evidence to the contrary.

DT in year 5. Sharpe and Carter (again) this year. The selection process is a ****ing joke.

I understand that. But I think Shields has a 50/50 shot to get in first ballot.

ClevelandBronco · 02-08-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

I'm not your pal, guy?

(THAT'S IT! Help Basileus777 along, eh?)

I'm not your guy, homey.

unothadeal · 02-08-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

(THAT'S IT! Help Basileus777 along, eh?)

I'm not your guy, homey.

I'm not your homey, friend.

**DeezNutz** · 02-08-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Two words: Randy Gradishar.

Yep.

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I understand that. But I think Shields has a 50/50 shot to get in first ballot.

Yeah, depending on the class, I could see 50/50 as being realistic. But I think it will be about the same odds for Gonzo, and both guys should be forget-about-it locks.

tk13 · 02-08-2009, 11:58 PM

I think Gonzo has a better shot than Shields. Depends on how badly he smashes the record book though.

**RealSNR** · 02-08-2009, 11:59 PM

A guy who sets the all-time record for a position in nearly all categories?

Tough call, it really is if he's first ballot or not. The chances aren't as ugly as some posters like to think it is. All time receiving yards, TDs, catches for a TE? That's pretty big shit.

Also, Barry Sanders was a first ballot HOFer. And he won ONE playoff game.

Luckily the HOF committee actually looks at how good a player actually is, and not just how good of a team the guy was on for his career.

**doomy3** · 02-08-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yep.

Yeah, depending on the class, I could see 50/50 as being realistic. But I think it will be about the same odds for Gonzo, and both guys should be forget-about-it locks.

I don't really think Gonzo is questionable. I think he is automatic. He still isn't done and has broken most records.

**cdcox** · 02-08-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Two words: Randy Gradishar.

What next, Floyd Little?

unothadeal · 02-09-2009, 12:00 AM

Tony just set the all-time record for receiving yards in the Pro Bowl. THE PRO BOWL! You know how many hall of famers have played in the pro bowl? A lot!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Bruce Matthews was a first ballot HOF'er just a year or two ago, and he didn't win anything either. It depends who you're up against sometimes. I don't know who would be in Shields HOF class. There's nothing "irrational" about it.

Guys like Derrick Thomas, Cris Carter, and Sharpe didn't get in on the first ballot, and they were premier players who got tons of coverage.

Shields played an anonymous condition for a mediocre team.

In a lot of ways, it's like Heisman balloting. It generally goes to the highest profile player on one of the best teams.

It took Elvin Bethea 15 years, Buck Buchanan 10+, Dan Dierdorf took 7 or 8 years despite not giving up a sack for over two years at right tackle and being a media fixture on MNF.

tk13 · 02-09-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yep.

Yeah, depending on the class, I could see 50/50 as being realistic. But I think it will be about the same odds for Gonzo, and both guys should be forget-about-it locks.

I think you're being wildly pessimistic about Gonzo... it's gotta be at least 60/40. He's considered a superstar, and when you get in a room one day and break down everything that he's going to accomplish, I think he's got a strong chance. As long as the presenter hammers home the fact he redefined the position and took "pass catching TE" to a new level. Although they do discriminate against TE's, but there haven't been too many as important to an offense as TG.

02-08-2009, 10:32 PM
rrl308 D.T. #58 HOF Join Date: Jan 2007 Casino cash: $10004925	I miss me some Will Shields He still looks like he should have the No. 68 plastered across his chest, even if he says he's not close to playing shape. Calm and equipped with a sharp, but dry sense of humor, former Kansas City Chief lineman Will Shields raised his voice Saturday morning just a little so his target could hear him. "I might be able to trip Grant (Wistrom) if he came off the line with my left foot, but that's about it," Shields joked at a press conference about his fellow Nebraska alumnus and former NFL defensive end. But seeing Shields inducted into the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame on Saturday in glasses and slacks, rather than a helmet and shoulder pads, not only reminds Chiefs fans of the winning ways of the 1990s and early 2000s, but just how far away those days feel. Shields is 37 now, two seasons removed from 12 straight Pro Bowls and 230 consecutive games played, second only to Brett Favre's current streak of 291. And since he retired after the 2006 season, the Chiefs have stumbled with a 6-26 record and fired head coach Herm Edwards, and long-time general manager Carl Peterson resigned. The duo were replaced with GM Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley. Shields, who still lives in Kansas City, said he thinks the Chiefs figured it out. "I think the Chiefs are going in the right direction," Shields said. "Not saying that (Edwards) was a bad coach or (Peterson) was a bad GM. They went with rebuilding and rebuilt through players, rather than rebuilding through the company. "That makes a big difference." Shields sounds like a guy who's looking big picture. Renowned for his charity work throughout the Kansas City area, including winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award in 2003, the former third-round pick in 1993 has shifted his focus from keeping his quarterback's shirt clean to molding players for the next level. Through his two 68's Inside Sports Fitness and Training Facilities in the KC area, Shields is starting to build a reputation for producing balanced football players. While 68's still offers recreational opportunities, and workout facilities for the general public, Shields finds himself working more with high school football players, to get them ready for college, or to prepare college players for the NFL. He wants to be the middleman. "When (colleges or pro teams) get them in, they recruit them for their system," Shields said. "They don't prepare them beyond that. They're interested in wins and losses. I'm not. "I want them to be the most balanced player they can be." And he's getting serious about it. The tone of his voice raises slightly when mentioning breaking down tape of current NFL and college systems, trying to learn the schemes. It also picks up when talk of trying to install controlled aggression in younger, more amiable players. He said he's working with a few regional NFL hopefuls, preparing them for the combine and other pro days. "With the loss of NFL Europe and Arena League, where can you take a kid who ran the spread and help him with power mush ball? Especially when he's already 340 pounds and he hasn't had his hand in the ground in 3 years," Shields said. "We can teach them the basics." Plus, the training helps keep him just enough in the game, not from trying to be an NFL coach or trying to stage an on-the-field comeback. He said he doesn't want to build any sort of training empire, but he likes it right where he is, whether it's knocking heads and pads with future NFL hopefuls or 7- and 8-year old kids at the facilities. "I get enough football in a day. It keeps me going," Shields said. http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs...=2009902080351 Last edited by rrl308; 02-08-2009 at 10:48 PM..
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1897500	I think Gonzo has a better shot than Shields. Depends on how badly he smashes the record book though.
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1534792	A guy who sets the all-time record for a position in nearly all categories? Tough call, it really is if he's first ballot or not. The chances aren't as ugly as some posters like to think it is. All time receiving yards, TDs, catches for a TE? That's pretty big shit. Also, Barry Sanders was a first ballot HOFer. And he won ONE playoff game. Luckily the HOF committee actually looks at how good a player actually is, and not just how good of a team the guy was on for his career.
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unothadeal HOF 20?? Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3206120	Tony just set the all-time record for receiving yards in the Pro Bowl. THE PRO BOWL! You know how many hall of famers have played in the pro bowl? A lot!
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