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Mecca · 02-11-2009, 05:35 AM

Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html

Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall.

“There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.”

Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor.

The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo.

While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs.

“The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are.

“I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.”

Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out.

The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line.

With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down?

Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen.

“I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy.

“He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.”

Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!

Brock · 02-11-2009, 11:52 AM

If they did last year's draft over again, it would be Ryan and Flacco 1 and 2. Zero argument.

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, Peter Carroll was butthurt because his sure thing championship next year went poof.

You really think thats the reason he states Sanchez isn't ready? not that the fact Sanchez has only played in 16 college games and now wants to jump to the pros?

Brock · 02-11-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

You really think thats the reason he states Sanchez isn't ready? not that the fact Sanchez has only played in 16 college games and now wants to jump to the pros?

Yes, I do think that. Otherwise, there was no reason for him to say it.

**DeezNutz** · 02-11-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, Peter Carroll was butthurt because his sure thing championship next year went poof.

For good measure:

Pete Carroll can go **** himself. What he says about Sanchez matters as much to me as what Gonzo has to say about Thigpen.

Both Carroll and Gonzo are motivated to make these types of statements, and thus they can't be trusted.

Coogs · 02-11-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Stafford is more worthy than Sanchez..........I wouldnt take a QB when his college coach is even saying that he's not ready. After one year starting those odds of him succeeding are horrible and the fact that we're picking #3 makes the Sanchez pick look foolish.

And so what if he is not exactly ready? A year or so on the bench is not going to set the team back all that much anyway. This is not a playoff caliber team next season anyway, and we are in position to get one of these two QB's. If it winds up being Sanchez, then let him sit provided he can not beat out Thigpen or Croyle. I'm not so sure he won't beat them out in training camp anyway, but it is no big thing if he doesn't.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Stafford is more worthy than Sanchez..........I wouldnt take a QB when his college coach is even saying that he's not ready. After one year starting those odds of him succeeding are horrible and the fact that we're picking #3 makes the Sanchez pick look foolish.

What the **** do you know about worthy, when you can't even take the time to sift through the relevant data and form a solid take?!

Antifreeze.

RustShack · 02-11-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

You really think thats the reason he states Sanchez isn't ready? not that the fact Sanchez has only played in 16 college games and now wants to jump to the pros?

I have a question, do you think USC's backup QB just goes home instead of ever going to practice or something?

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yes, I do think that. Otherwise, there was no reason for him to say it.

I'm sure the lack of games Sanchez played in has nothing to do with it.

**DeezNutz** · 02-11-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

And so what if he is not exactly ready? A year or so on the bench is not going to set the team back all that much anyway. This is not a playoff caliber team next season anyway, and we are in position to get one of these two QB's. If it winds up being Sanchez, then let him sit provided he can not beat out Thigpen or Croyle. I'm not so sure he won't beat them out in training camp anyway, but it is no big thing if he doesn't.

Absolutely.

No one is claiming that either Stafford or Sanchez has to start game #1.

Croyle will hurt himself in a meeting, so can we please filter his name on this forum? Replace it with a smilie of a crutch or wheelchair?

Coogs · 02-11-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

A QB (right handed) can't succeed without a good LT

IIRC, Miami traded up into the 2nd round to grab Henne. You don't think if they had it to do all over again, that they would have rather done it the Falcons way and got Ryan first, then traded up into the back half of the first round to have picked the LT?

RustShack · 02-11-2009, 11:58 AM

The QB we draft wont even be in consideration to be the opening day starter anyways.

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I have a question, do you think USC's backup QB just goes home instead of ever going to practice or something?

Live snaps in games against other opponents >>>>>>>>>>>>> Practice

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-11-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I have a question, do you think USC's backup QB just goes home instead of ever going to practice or something?

RustShack · 02-11-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Live snaps in games against other opponents >>>>>>>>>>>>> Practice

He got a full seasons worth of snaps. Yeah he would be better with another year, but that doesn't mean he isn't ready now. Hell Cassell didn't even play when he went to school there.

suds79 · 02-11-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

A QB (right handed) can't succeed without a good LT

Yeah sure you need good protection. But franchise QBs are pretty hard to find. We got our franchise LT picking in the mid 1st.

No way one could spin it. It's still early but assuming Ryan continues to do what he did, that was a bad pick.

02-11-2009, 05:35 AM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall. “There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.” Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor. The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs. “The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are. “I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.” Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out. The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line. With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down? Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen. “I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy. “He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.” Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!
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