HALEY SPEAKS. BE STILL MY HEART.

[BigRock]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1041866.html

Nutshell: they didn't announce titles for the coaches because the staff isn't complete yet, and they'll be able to be flexible with the coaches' roles depending on who else is hired. But Bill Muir is definitely the o-line coach.

He hasn't decided whether to call his own plays and hasn't decided on a defensive scheme. The latter will be decided once they evalute all the players. He thinks Dorsey is good enough to play either way.

Chiefs’ Haley still sorting out roles for assistant coaches
By ADAM TEICHER

In his first public comments since his introductory news conference two weeks ago, Haley said Wednesday he was still sorting through important issues like whether he will call the offensive plays and what defensive system the Chiefs will use.

Haley also said he planned to hire at least one additional assistant. Those decisions will then determine exactly how the staff aligns.

“There are still a few moving parts,” Haley said before leaving for Indianapolis and the NFL’s annual scouting combine. “That’s why we haven’t gotten into specifics. Right now I’m just trying to get as many good coaches as we can get. To this point, I’m happy with what I’ve been able to do. If you have good coaches, then you figure out the best fit.

“I’m not trying to be cute here. I’m trying to leave enough flexibility, and then I’ll sort it out from there.”

Haley acknowledged a temptation to call the offensive plays, something he did for most of two seasons as the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He said he was leaning toward handing those duties to his coordinator. He wouldn’t name that coach, but last season’s coordinator, Chan Gailey, remains on staff.

“I have a strong opinion on the best way to do that,” Haley said.

“When I went to Arizona, coach (Ken) Whisenhunt had enough trust in me to let me do that for him. I really think that’s the best way to handle it. But I’m still sorting through all of this, so I’ll hold off on saying for sure. I really haven’t decided one way or another.”

Another major decision facing Haley is whether to align the Chiefs in a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense. Haley hired as assistants two former NFL defensive coordinators, Gary Gibbs and Clancy Pendergast. Gibbs has a more extensive background in the 3-4 and Pendergast in the 4-3.

Haley wouldn’t say, but it’s possible Gibbs could be the coordinator and Pendergast the linebackers coach if the Chiefs use the 3-4. Those duties might reverse if Haley decides to use the 4-3.

“We just had the first staff meeting (Tuesday),” Haley said. “What I told these guys is that I want them to go through each player and then we’ll figure out what we have. We’ll do that on each side of the ball, very detailed. I want an open mind. I’m a big believer in doing what your players can do best. When we get through that process, I’ll have a stronger feeling about which way we’re going to go.

“I will say that some of the players we have here defensively from what I’ve seen offer some flexibility. (Glenn) Dorsey is a good enough athlete to have some versatility. He could play either system.”

Haley said he hired at least some of his assistants without giving them specific job responsibilities. He loaded his staff, so far numbering 11, with veterans and coaches he has worked with before.

All 11 assistants have some NFL coaching experience.

“That was something I was definitely looking for,” Haley said. “This is my first go-round. I’m not an ego guy. I just want to coach. The more guys I can get with experience and fit with what we’re trying to do and also have been around winning organizations, that will be a big help as we go forward.”

Haley has worked with five of the seven new assistant coaches. He also retained four coaches from the staff of former head coach Herm Edwards.

He indicated one of his first targets was Bill Muir, who Haley said will coach the offensive line. Muir is a 31-year NFL veteran who worked with Haley for four seasons with the New York Jets.

More recently, Muir was the offensive line coach and coordinator for Tampa Bay, though he didn’t call the offensive plays.

“I have a lot of respect for him.,” Haley said. “He’s the best I’ve been around as far as guys coaching that position. For me to get a guy like that this late in the game right out of the gate is a big thing. That’s such a key position for us.”

Haley’s next big project is to study the Chiefs players. Free agency begins a week from Friday.

“Hiring the staff has taken up a lot of time. I’ve probably watched half the season to this point. But I’ve got my computer loaded up to take to the combine. Hopefully I’ll get to the rest of it.

“There had been no contact and it was pure speculation, but there were a couple of days sitting in Arizona that I thought maybe I should throw in some tape of Kansas City, just in case. I didn’t do it because I thought it would be a disservice to my team there and my boss there, so I never did it.”

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Very fair.. but I was not sold on him as a top pick last year and was not completely suprised he dropped to us.. I was happy that he did since the guys I wanted were gone and he seemed to be the consensus "steal" at the time...

I still hold out hope that it was amixture of coaching/scheme/misc. that made him look so completely lost last year... but all I'm saying is that I just PRAY that he doesn't end up a complete waste ala Ryan Sims

Honestly, Dorsey did as well as many top DT picks have done over the last few years. To compare him to Sims is laughable.

I think he will handle the transition to the 3-4 much better than people think.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I honestly don't think Dorsey could ever be an effective NT (lack of size AND strength) and not likely to be a great 4-3 DT (unless Krumrie/scheme really were THAT bad).. so if that make him a bust because he becomes a great 3-4 De.. I am ok with that... He lacks the typical height but he plays well in space so... hard to say at this point.

Just as long as he isn't a COMPLETE bust like so many of our other DT picks have been of late... I will swallow that we picked him to high for the role he eventual may fill.

And don't mention TRADE value... unless he proves his worth with US, no one is gonna give up value for him regardless.

Dorsey constantly took up blockers in college. There is no lack of strength that you speak of. He is agile and strong. It will be interesting to see what the Chiefs do with him because he can bulk up and play NT, or go outside and play end.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The reason I think Krummie was kept was to keep a member of the old staff on board to help the new guys know the players. Heck we only had Gunther and Gibbs as the other defensive coaches and they are gone. Its a crappy reason but you see it alot.

I think the reason that Krumrie was kept is because both Jared Allen and Aaron Schobel had their breakout years under his coaching. I think he was kept because he is very well respected in the league.

I am not saying that he won't eventually be replaced. Or that there isn't a better coach in the league. I just think the typical fans opinion of him, much like the typical fans opinion of Dick Curl, isn't shared by the professionals that actually play and coach football for a living.

[allen_kcCard]

Originally Posted by FAX

Well, they're going to deserve quite a few prop things if they're able to sweet-talk Romeo into joining the club. But, I guess if anybody could do it ...

I've never heard of a franchise hiring coaches in this manner ... we want you to work for us, but we don't know what you'll be doing? Wow.

FAX

How about they use some of those prop things to prop him up on the sideline and coach us a defense...one hip, two hips, whatever.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I think it is amazing that people honestly think that these guys don't know what the situation is. I am sure the parameters have been laid out as to what will decide who does what.

I'm guessing most of these guys were out of work, so some paycheck is better than no paycheck. But I would assume there is a rank and file order within that paycheck system with the DC making more than the LB coach. Let's hope we get honest evaluations out of these coaches, and not have a competition for who gets the most money.

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

How about they use some of those prop things to prop him up on the sideline and coach us a defense...one hip, two hips, whatever.

Seriously, we will wheel him wherever his port-a-bed needs to be...all he needs out of the gate is time with film....we'll wait a few months for him to get his hands dirty.

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm guessing most of these guys were out of work, so some paycheck is better than no paycheck. But I would assume there is a rank and file order within that paycheck system with the DC making more than the LB coach. Let's hope we get honest evaluations out of these coaches, and not have a competition for who gets the most money.

Can you read? The man flat out said that they're not all clearly defined, and that they have at least one more hire they're considering...the bulk of these guys know what they'll do, but Gibbs/Pendergast seems to be legitimately swaying some...but they're likely equals...if we end up without Crennel and just these two - they'll be co-DCs.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by soundmind

Can you read? The man flat out said that they're not all clearly defined, and that they have at least one more hire they're considering...the bulk of these guys know what they'll do, but Gibbs/Pendergast seems to be legitimately swaying some...but they're likely equals...if we end up without Crennel and just these two - they'll be co-DCs.

There is SOME sway, but the reality is that these guys are not clueless as to how it will all play out. They know that if x happens, I will have this job. And, if Y happens, I will have that job.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by soundmind

Can you read? .

I thought I could.

[Hoover]

I think Crennel still comes in ans serves as the defensive guru.

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I thought I could.

Oh man, I'm sorry, that unjustifiable morning spite was directed elsewhere I believe, I think I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote the one about everyone being idiots for thinking they actually didn't have titles yet...just because that's exactly what the guy said....apologies!

[brent102fire]

I like the philosophy in building a scheme around your football players and not trying to make your players fit into your scheme, like Herm did. Herm ran a scheme and made his players try to fit in on Offense and Defense. I think he finally realized that wasn't going to work any longer when Thigpen became the starter and LJ was out of the lineup. I like what I am seeing so far. Bring in Crennel!

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I think the reason that Krumrie was kept is because both Jared Allen and Aaron Schobel had their breakout years under his coaching. I think he was kept because he is very well respected in the league.

I am not saying that he won't eventually be replaced. Or that there isn't a better coach in the league. I just think the typical fans opinion of him, much like the typical fans opinion of Dick Curl, isn't shared by the professionals that actually play and coach football for a living.

you were doing fine until you mentioned Dick Curl

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

If we go 3-4, Tank's development may be the most important thing for the defense this offseason.

Because even if Dorsey can work successfully like Seymour does, we still (badly) need a Wilfork. And I don't think we can afford to do it early on someone like Raji, not a year after using the 5 on Dorsey and with the best chance we may ever have at drafting a franchise quarterback, assuming we believe there's one and he's there to pick.

Sanchez isn't a franchise QB.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I think Crennel still comes in ans serves as the defensive guru.

Isnt he taking off a year or something because of a surgery he had?