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Old 03-14-2009, 12:43 PM  
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Updated: March 14, 2009
EAST (Boston)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA (27-3)
(16) RADFORD (18-11) / Big South
(8) Oklahoma St (22-11)
(9) SIENA (26-7)
Miami
(5) Illinois (24-8)
(12) TEMPLE (21-11) / A-10
(4) Syracuse (25-8)
(13) WESTERN KENTUCKY (23-8) / Sun Belt
Philadelphia
(6) Arizona St (24-8)
(11) Maryland (20-12)
(3) Villanova (26-7)
(14) AMERICAN (24-7) / Patriot
Kansas City
(7) BYU (24-7)
(10) Wisconsin (18-12)
(2) Kansas (25-7)
(15) CS NORTHRIDGE (15-13) / Big West
WEST (Arizona)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut (27-4)
(16) MORGAN ST (21-11) / MEAC
(8) Butler (25-5)
(9) Texas A&M (22-9)
Portland
(5) Xavier (25-7)
(12) Saint Mary's (24-6)
(4) Washington (24-8)
(13) NORTH DAKOTA ST (24-6) / Summit
Boise
(6) Clemson (23-8)
(11) UTAH ST (28-4)
(3) MISSOURI (26-6)
(14) EAST TENN ST (21-10) / Atl Sun
Kansas City
(7) Texas (22-11)
(10) Michigan (19-13)
(2) MEMPHIS (30-3)
(15) PORTLAND ST (20-9) / Big Sky



MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) Pittsburgh (27-4)
(16) Opening-round Game
(8) California (22-10)
(9) Ohio State (21-9)
Boise
(5) Florida St (24-8)
(12) NORTHERN IOWA (22-10) / MVC
(4) GONZAGA (25-5)
(13) CLEVELAND ST (22-10) / Horizon
Miami
(6) LSU (26-6)
(11) San Diego St (21-8)
(3) Wake Forest (24-6)
(14) BINGHAMTON (21-8) / Amer East
Minneapolis
(7) Marquette (24-9)
(10) Dayton (26-7)
(2) MICHIGAN ST (26-5)
(15) CORNELL (19-9) / Ivy
SOUTH (Memphis)
Dayton
(1) LOUISVILLE (27-5)
(16) MOREHEAD ST (17-15) / OVC
(8) UTAH (23-8)
(9) Boston College (22-11)
Portland
(5) Purdue (23-9)
(12) VCU (24-9) / CAA
(4) UCLA (25-8)
(13) BUFFALO (21-10) / MAC
Minneapolis
(6) West Virginia (23-11)
(11) Creighton (26-7)
(3) Oklahoma (27-5)
(14) STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (19-7) / Southland
Minneapolis
(7) Tennessee (20-11)
(10) Minnesota (21-10)
(2) Duke (26-6)
(15) ROBERT MORRIS (24-10) / Northeast




They still have Kansas a #2 even after getting whooped by Baylor and Tech. If KU gets a 2, I will shit myself and not change my drawers for weeks. No freaking way.

Do you know how you can get 7 teams to lose in the first round? Invite 7 Big 10 teams to the tournament. What a joke.

I don't see anyway possible that the Big East doesn't get three #1 seeds this year. That has got to be some sort of record.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:08 PM   #46
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I don't see how Oklahoma could get a #2 seed. If MU wins today, I think they have a chance of grabbing the KC spot. If not, KU would have a strong chance. I could see both teams being #3 seeds though.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:08 PM   #47
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Ah, an MU fan... probably a grad. It's "that well," but I digress.

Who's undefeated? Tell me! Does every good team need to go 35-0 or they're a failure? We're playing with one junior starter and the rest sophs/freshmen. Watching KU at the start of the season I was hoping we wouldn't be an embarrassment and maybe make the NIT. Yet, here we are.
But... but... we're all a bunch of assholes for saying anything that could be considered pro KU.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #48
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UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
Eh, it depends. Florida St. isn't an awful team, so I doubt it matters too much. Being a number one seed doesn't mean never losing, especially in a tournament. Let's see what Duke does though...
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #49
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Probably not much, unless one overlooks the reg. season championship.

Oh, and there was a win vs. Texas mixed in there, to be fair.
And at OU when they were top 5... and blowing out MU when they were #8. Yea... anything we get over an 8 seed is a gift. It must be fixed.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM   #50
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UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
So your saying that those teams losing won't factor into their seeding? A team like Michigan State had a chance at a #1 seed, they won't get it now. UCONN isn't a lock for a #1 seed anymore. NC is still a lock, but that is due to them being NC and already being considered well ahead of the pack. Ty Lawson also did not play today.

Also, how is it reconciled that a highly seeded team that loses its best player near the end of the season will be downgraded, yet a team with a great early season/non-con that is obviously not playing great at the end of season will be given a pass because of their body of work. Why make a predictive seeding due to a lost player but not due to a poor finish?
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:11 PM   #51
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Eh, it depends. Florida St. isn't an awful team, so I doubt it matters too much. Being a number one seed doesn't mean never losing, especially in a tournament. Let's see what Duke does though...
My post was sarcasm directed toward beer bacon
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:11 PM   #52
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But... but... we're all a bunch of assholes for saying anything that could be considered pro KU.
Yeah, the fish aren't biting on your bait today. Might try again tomorrow.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:11 PM   #53
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I don't see how Oklahoma could get a #2 seed. If MU wins today, I think they have a chance of grabbing the KC spot. If not, KU would have a strong chance. I could see both teams being #3 seeds though.
I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.
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I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.
My opinion is OU will be a #2 due to their non-conference. KU and MU will be #3s. This is fantastic considering OU lost to both teams and then choked against Ok. State.
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My post was sarcasm directed toward beer bacon
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I pretty much agree with this. So, I hope MU loses. Who knows though what will happen.

But, I do think OU will probably be a 2 seed.
The 2 seed is between OU and ku right now. I don't see them giving it to OU because they finished 2nd in the league, lost to ku at home, and have gone 4-6 their last 10 games.

I just don't think the committee could justify that.
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So your saying that those teams losing won't factor into their seeding? A team like Michigan State had a chance at a #1 seed, they won't get it now. UCONN isn't a lock for a #1 seed anymore. NC is still a lock, but that is due to them being NC and already being considered well ahead of the pack. Ty Lawson also did not play today.

Also, how is it reconciled that a highly seeded team that loses its best player near the end of the season will be downgraded, yet a team with a great early season/non-con that is obviously not playing great at the end of season will be given a pass because of their body of work. Why make a predictive seeding due to a lost player but not due to a poor finish?
Great early season? KU? Started pretty slow... then won the conference.

I've gone on record twice already too saying KU deserves anywhere from a 3 to a 5 seed.
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The 2 seed is between OU and ku right now. I don't see them giving it to OU because they finished 2nd in the league, lost to ku at home, and have gone 4-6 their last 10 games.

I just don't think the committee could justify that.
The current head of the selection committee has a boner for rewarding a team's "body of work." This means the most important thing to him is the non-conference. OU had an excellent non-con and they will be rewarded for it.
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Yeah, the fish aren't biting on your bait today. Might try again tomorrow.
Oh there's plenty of KU hate going on... it's fun to see.
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Oh there's plenty of KU hate going on... it's fun to see.
Most of my rancor is directed at dumbass KU fans. It is hard for me to be angry today
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