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Old 04-02-2009, 03:19 PM  
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:41 PM   #121
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This is all really quick and dirty, but if you assume that one-year-later = a one-round drop in value when it comes to draft choices, I figure the deal netted Denver a chart value of around 1300 for Cutler, plus Orton (who I'd say has very little value at all). That's equivalent to the #10 pick.

Even if you assume that the Bears' first's value next year is roughly equivalent to what it's worth this year, that still only puts the total value at the equivalent of our #3 pick. That's not at all too much for a franchise QB.
It's a great deal for the Bears...people who don't think it is either don't like Cutler because he was on the Broncos or they don't value the QB position at all.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:41 PM   #122
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Don't worry all the QB's in the draft suck, Chiefsplanet told me so.
Never said that, just said that Mark Sanchez does. And you've been saying all along that Stafford is going to suck.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:41 PM   #123
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We got ripped the **** off. Denver needed to get a top 10 pick, another 1st round pick, and a pro bowler to make this trade fair.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM   #124
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM   #125
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I like how every analyst they've talked to on NFLN have said what a great deal this is for the Bears, how it's impossible to overpay for a franchise QB.

Then read the comments here about how the Donks got over on the Bears...

Our fan base is loaded with ****tards who think QB isn't anymore valuable than the Jesus Curry.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM   #126
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It's a great deal for the Bears...people who don't think it is either don't like Cutler because he was on the Broncos or they don't value the QB position at all.
I do agree with you here. Kyle Orton is a big step down from Jay Cutler, so I'm pretty excited that he's going to be in Denver... will it be Simms or Orton... my answer is Who Cares?? They're both worse than Cutler.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM   #127
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This is all really quick and dirty, but if you assume that one-year-later = a one-round drop in value when it comes to draft choices, I figure the deal netted Denver a chart value of around 1300 for Cutler, plus Orton (who I'd say has very little value at all). That's equivalent to the #10 pick.

Even if you assume that the Bears' first's value next year is roughly equivalent to what it's worth this year, that still only puts the total value at the equivalent of our #3 pick. That's not at all too much for a franchise QB.
FWIW, the 12th and 18th pick is worth 2150.

They could move up to as high as #3.

EDIT: Duh. You mentioned that.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM   #128
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We got ripped the **** off. Denver needed to get a top 10 pick, another 1st round pick, and a pro bowler to make this trade fair.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:43 PM   #129
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Going to be strange to see an actual good QB in Chicago after all these years.
I thought they traded for Cutler?

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We got ripped the **** off. Denver needed to get a top 10 pick, another 1st round pick, and a pro bowler to make this trade fair.
Whaaa?? This is Jay Cutler not Tom Brady. If you think C-untler is worth all that then pass whatever your smokin.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:43 PM   #131
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Never said that, just said that Mark Sanchez does. And you've been saying all along that Stafford is going to suck.
I said that really?

That's news to me.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:43 PM   #132
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:43 PM   #133
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They traded 2009 1st rounder 2010 1st rounder and Kyle Orton for Cutler... Bears got hozed.
And they continue to show up...
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:44 PM   #134
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Chiefs should take Sanchez or Stafford if available just to **** w/ the Broncos, and then trade one of their QBs for a first next year.
Yeah... because Cassel who's worth half-a-second at 11-5 is going to be worth a first at 15-17.
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I like how every analyst they've talked to on NFLN have said what a great deal this is for the Bears, how it's impossible to overpay for a franchise QB.

Then read the comments here about how the Donks got over on the Bears...

NFLN blows Cutler constantly though. I say that he's more proven than any QB in the draft, and with the right coaching/defense (like the Bears' defense), he can be phenomenal. Still a great trade for the Bears.
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