Chiefs Clark Judge: Rating smartest, boldest, scariest offseason moves - Page 15

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-14-2009, 12:01 PM

Rating smartest, boldest, scariest offseason moves
May 13, 2009
By Clark Judge
CBSSports.com Senior Writer

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11743195

Five boldest moves

Kansas City hiring Scott Pioli

Some people automatically put this one in the win column. Not me. Not after Charlie Weis fizzled at Notre Dame and Romeo Crennel bombed out in Cleveland. OK, so they were former New England coaches, and Pioli was a decorated GM. They still fall from the same tree. The question I have is this: How much was Pioli responsible for what happened in New England? "I guess we're about to find out," said one NFC general manager.

The good news is that Thomas Dimitroff had New England ties, too, and he circled the bases in his first turn as a GM in Atlanta. The bad news: Pioli's first draft with Kansas City: There are reaches everywhere. He also reversed the team's Get Young Now policy by adding 30-something discards like Bobby Engram, Zach Thomas, Monty Beisel and Mike Vrabel. You can do that when you're at or near the top, like New England. But this is a team that lost 23 of its last 25, for crying out loud.

Five biggest gambles

Kansas City acquiring Matt Cassel

I know what he did with New England. But that was the Patriots, and tell me where you find Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Richard Seymour and Bill Belichick in the 816 area code. Cassel was surrounded by a raft of talent on the field and on the sidelines in New England, and I'm still looking for that support group here. So he produced a couple of 400-yard passing games and won 10 of 15 starts. That was nice. But I want to see him reproduce it here. OK, I know what you're thinking: What do the Chiefs have to lose -- especially when all they surrendered for Cassel and Vrabel was a second-round draft pick? Try this: They're paying Cassel $14.65 million in guaranteed salary. If he turns out to be the next Scott Mitchell I know some bean counters in red suits who will demand explanations.

Just Passin' By · 05-15-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, talk about missing the point.

You just go ahead and continue to give the Chiefs "the benefit of the doubt".

I, on the other hand, will not.

I didn't miss the point at all. On the other hand, you've ignored it multiple times on this thread. I really don't care whether you give the team the benefit of the doubt or not. However, if you bitch about every move the team makes, and you do it in such a way that you belittle those that don't agree with you, you should expect people to bitch at you and return the favor. It's really that simple.

**doomy3** · 05-15-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Can you cry some more? I really like it when you cry like a little girl; it's awesome!

Where exactly was I crying? I think your reading comprehension needs a tune up, as well as your overall persona.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I didn't miss the point at all. On the other hand, you've ignored it multiple times on this thread. I really don't care whether you give the team the benefit of the doubt or not. However, if you bitch about every move the team makes, and you do it in such a way that you belittle those that don't agree with you, you should expect people to bitch at you and return the favor. It's really that simple.

You're beginning to really annoy me.

Where have I "bitched" in this thread, ****head?

If you perceive the opposite of cheerleading to be "bitching", you just need to shut the **** up right now.

Just Passin' By · 05-15-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're beginning to really annoy me.

Where have I "bitched" in this thread, ****head?

If you perceive the opposite of cheerleading to be "bitching", you just need to shut the **** up right now.

And, once again, you miss the point.

Tiger's Fan · 05-15-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I hope that Cassel succeeds. Absolutely.

But if the decision were up to ME (and it's clearly not), I would have chosen Sanchez/Unger over Jackson/Cassel.

I've posted "my" mock draft in the draft forum. It would have address every need on the offensive line, TE, WR, K and most importantly, QB. We would have had an offense that would grow together for the next 5 years and beyond (with Bowe, Charles, Albert & Cottam).

That's not how it worked out. I'm not "bitching" about it. I'm voicing my opinion.

After all, that's what this forum is for; voicing our opinions.

Unless somehow I missed the memo after Pioli was hired and we're all now supposed to fall in line like a bunch of lemmings.

And even then, I'd voice my opinion

Between your "not bitching" opinions about EVERYTHING, Hamas striking Pioli out constantly, and Mecca, with his irrefutable draft board, it's little wonder that all you're left to relate to on this board is that ****ing idiot DCS. You are solidly a moron of the highest order, and most people on here laugh at your attempts to be condecending to folks you're not remotely as intelligent as.

It's a shame daddies money kept you from getting the proper beatdown you richly needed, and I'm sure, deserved as a young man. Maybe that way you would have grown to be a real man, instead of the sniveling little pussy you are today. What a joke.

**Reaper16** · 05-15-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Between your "not bitching" opinions about EVERYTHING, Hamas striking Pioli out constantly, and Mecca, with his irrefutable draft board, it's little wonder that all you're left to relate to on this board is that ****ing idiot DCS. You are solidly a moron of the highest order, and most people on here laugh at your attempts to be condecending to folks you're not remotely as intelligent as.

It's a shame daddies money kept you from getting the proper beatdown you richly needed, and I'm sure, deserved as a young man. Maybe that way you would have grown to be a real man, instead of the sniveling little pussy you are today. What a joke.

Nice attempt at sounding tough. Take off the clownshoes.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Between your "not bitching" opinions about EVERYTHING, Hamas striking Pioli out constantly, and Mecca, with his irrefutable draft board, it's little wonder that all you're left to relate to on this board is that ****ing idiot DCS. You are solidly a moron of the highest order, and most people on here laugh at your attempts to be condecending to folks you're not remotely as intelligent as.

Hmmm. I think you'd find that most people here would disagree with your assessment but I'd kindly advise you to **** yourself.

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

It's a shame daddies money kept you from getting the proper beatdown you richly needed, and I'm sure, deserved as a young man. Maybe that way you would have grown to be a real man, instead of the sniveling little pussy you are today. What a joke.

My parents are wealthy now?

I'm a pussy and need a beatdown? Is this a threat?

And the only joke around here, Buster, is you.

**** off.

Tiger's Fan · 05-15-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Nice attempt at sounding tough. Take off the clownshoes.

Frankly, I'm shocked that YOU would come running to the rescue of a putz like Dane. Shocked I tell you.

Tiger's Fan · 05-15-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hmmm. I think you'd find that most people here would disagree with your assessment but I'd kindly advise you to **** yourself.

Enjoy!

My parents are wealthy now?

I'm a pussy and need a beatdown? Is this a threat?

And the only joke around here, Buster, is you.

**** off.

If you have the balls to do so, start a poll asking if people on this board think you're a pathetic joke. I'll wait.

**doomy3** · 05-15-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

If you have the balls to do so, start a poll asking if people on this board think you're a pathetic joke. I'll wait.

He doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about him. He says it in every thread so everyone knows.

**Reaper16** · 05-15-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Frankly, I'm shocked that YOU would come running to the rescue of a putz like Dane. Shocked I tell you.

I'm not so much defending Dane as I am just disliking a post of yours. That happens a lot, btw. You're a Godawful poster.

bdeg · 05-15-2009, 05:47 PM

Oh the hypocrisy. if you're going to constantly throw stones(often for no reason(Dane)), don't get mad when people throw them back. if you call me an idiot, be able to prove i'm an idiot.

you alternate between complaining about 'n00bs' starting fights, and then admit you start so many fights for so little reason, it must be an act, an online persona so outside the realm of realistic possibility we should know by default you're joking. which is it?

you claim hostility is running off quality members, how much of this hostility is generated by yourself?

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Frankly, I'm shocked that YOU would come running to the rescue of a putz like Dane. Shocked I tell you.

Internet tough guys are cool.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about him. He says it in every thread so everyone knows.

Why do you even bother? I guess you must be bored with your life.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Oh the hypocrisy. if you're going to constantly throw stones(often for no reason(Dane)), don't get mad when people throw them back. if you call me an idiot, be able to prove i'm an idiot.

Go ahead point out where I've "constantly" thrown "stones" without any reason.

I'll be waiting.

Nice work on Everette Brown, BTW. He was certainly worth the third pick in the draft.

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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	Oh the hypocrisy. if you're going to constantly throw stones(often for no reason(Dane)), don't get mad when people throw them back. if you call me an idiot, be able to prove i'm an idiot. you alternate between complaining about 'n00bs' starting fights, and then admit you start so many fights for so little reason, it must be an act, an online persona so outside the realm of realistic possibility we should know by default you're joking. which is it? you claim hostility is running off quality members, how much of this hostility is generated by yourself?
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