Other Sports The hypocrisy of NASCAR - Page 2

Luke · 05-19-2009, 10:38 PM

I didn't think this would fit in the boogery boogery thread.

With the recent suspension of driver Jeremy Mayfield for an as of yet unreported "drug" violation, I have began to notice many hypocrisys in one of my favorite sports.

Suposedly born from the transportation of illegal alcohol, the sport until recently would not allow "hard" liquor to sponsor race teams. Beer companies were OK evidently, as in Budwieser, Coors, Miller, yet no hard liquor. The Minor league as it were was named the Busch Cup, while the Winston Cup was the premium championship. I guess RJ Reynolds was not deemed "family friendly" anymore.

With drivers such as Carl Edwards hawking Claritin-D, which is as I understand on the list of prohibited substances, and the Wallace family pushing 5 hour performance enhancing juice, hypocricy seems to be reaching a new level.

I understand that piloting a ton and a half machine at 200 mph along with 42 other racers then trying to turn left is rather risky. I would not be in favor of racers injesting alcohol, meth, herion or cocain and getting behind the wheel.

NASCAR management seems to have quite a bit of flexibility in the rules when they pertain to certain racing familes. Yet they plead zero tolerence to drugs against other folks.

Maybe it is the bad economy, falling ticket sales, or lack of business financing, but for any sport to grow I feel the rules should be uniform for all.

Rant over, thank you for your time.

Katipan · 05-20-2009, 04:51 AM

and im pretty sure there is a driver sponsored by jack daniels
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**Bugeater** · 05-20-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

You're nuts. They do more than just turn left all afternoon. The cars are superior. The drivers are superior. It's the pinnacle of racing.

That may all be true, but it still doesn't make it exciting to watch.

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Originally Posted by Katipan

and im pretty sure there is a driver sponsored by jack daniels
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You may want to re-read the first sentence of the third paragraph again.

Katipan · 05-20-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

You may want to re-read the first sentence of the third paragraph again.

Nah.

milkman · 05-20-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Success of Dancing with the Stars and American Idol explains it.

When i see the 30 million Americans watching them 2 ****ing shows, i am like why why why why why why? wtf is the appeal.

When I see someone bitching about the downfall of America while using "them 2 ****ing shows", I find it difficult to even imagine they have a ****ing clue.

milkman · 05-20-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Like it or not, its classified in the sport, you can say its not until every single person hears you in America, but they still classify it as one.

Now, about the otehr stuff the OP was asking. Oh well. lol

Who give's a rat's ass how it's classified?

If I think an activity is not a sport, then to me it isn't a sport.

Al Bundy · 05-20-2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

The drivers are superior.

That would be incorrect.

Fat Elvis · 05-20-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When I see someone bitching about the downfall of America while using "them 2 ****ing shows", I find it difficult to even imagine they have a ****ing clue.

QFT

jidar · 05-20-2009, 07:33 AM

I don't get it.
If the rednecks in this country were going to make racing into a huge sport why didn't they pick rally racing or something, but no they picked driving in a circle? What the hell?

**Skip Towne** · 05-20-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

That shit is way more boring than NASCAR.

That's unpossible

**Dylan** · 05-20-2009, 07:46 AM

what could be more exciting than watching someone slam you through the wall at speeds over 200mph? watching someone get their knee blown out?

(bugeater)

LOL

**Dylan** · 05-20-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

That's unpossible

dtebbe · 05-20-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

I'm fairly certain NASCAR didn't choose to have RJ Reynolds stop being the title sponsor.

And you would be right. They were legislated out by the "tobacco settlement" that limited their participation in sports advertising.

DT

**morphius** · 05-20-2009, 08:05 AM

I didn't think the change from Winston to Nextel/Sprint had anything to do with their feelings about cig's, but had more to do with RJ Reynolds not renewing and Nextel jumping in with the bucks to sponsor it.

As for hard liquor, there were a lot of restrictions on advertising on TV for hard liquor, and the NASCAR ban probably had to fall in line to be aired on TV. I still think they can only advertise the hard stuff after prime time, while things like Cariton can be advertised any time of the day.

So I guess I really have no idea what you are upset about.

Fairplay · 05-20-2009, 08:21 AM

They advertise Viagra on one of those cars. Maybe Mark Martin's.

Fairplay · 05-20-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

As for hard liquor, there were a lot of restrictions on advertising on TV for hard liquor, and the NASCAR ban probably had to fall in line to be aired on TV. I still think they can only advertise the hard stuff after prime time, while things like Cariton can be advertised any time of the day.

I think there is a car that had Jack Daniels on the hood of it currently.

05-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Luke Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	The hypocrisy of NASCAR I didn't think this would fit in the boogery boogery thread. With the recent suspension of driver Jeremy Mayfield for an as of yet unreported "drug" violation, I have began to notice many hypocrisys in one of my favorite sports. Suposedly born from the transportation of illegal alcohol, the sport until recently would not allow "hard" liquor to sponsor race teams. Beer companies were OK evidently, as in Budwieser, Coors, Miller, yet no hard liquor. The Minor league as it were was named the Busch Cup, while the Winston Cup was the premium championship. I guess RJ Reynolds was not deemed "family friendly" anymore. With drivers such as Carl Edwards hawking Claritin-D, which is as I understand on the list of prohibited substances, and the Wallace family pushing 5 hour performance enhancing juice, hypocricy seems to be reaching a new level. I understand that piloting a ton and a half machine at 200 mph along with 42 other racers then trying to turn left is rather risky. I would not be in favor of racers injesting alcohol, meth, herion or cocain and getting behind the wheel. NASCAR management seems to have quite a bit of flexibility in the rules when they pertain to certain racing familes. Yet they plead zero tolerence to drugs against other folks. Maybe it is the bad economy, falling ticket sales, or lack of business financing, but for any sport to grow I feel the rules should be uniform for all. Rant over, thank you for your time.
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05-20-2009, 04:51 AM	#16
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jidar MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: a Casino cash: $10004900	I don't get it. If the rednecks in this country were going to make racing into a huge sport why didn't they pick rally racing or something, but no they picked driving in a circle? What the hell?
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Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	what could be more exciting than watching someone slam you through the wall at speeds over 200mph? watching someone get their knee blown out? (bugeater) LOL __________________ Last edited by Dylan; 05-20-2009 at 07:57 AM..
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morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5695027	I didn't think the change from Winston to Nextel/Sprint had anything to do with their feelings about cig's, but had more to do with RJ Reynolds not renewing and Nextel jumping in with the bucks to sponsor it. As for hard liquor, there were a lot of restrictions on advertising on TV for hard liquor, and the NASCAR ban probably had to fall in line to be aired on TV. I still think they can only advertise the hard stuff after prime time, while things like Cariton can be advertised any time of the day. So I guess I really have no idea what you are upset about.
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Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	They advertise Viagra on one of those cars. Maybe Mark Martin's.
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