Chiefs I like Herm's method better... - Page 2

kcbubb · 05-27-2009, 09:24 AM

I would rather play with a bunch of young players and develop them than sign a bunch of old guys if we know that we are going to be bad. Most people seem to believe that the Chiefs are going to be lucky to win six games.

If that is the case, why not look for the next Brandon Carr, Mark Bradley or Mike Cox??? It's hard to find those guys if they don't get a chance to play.

Why are we wasting this valuable playing time on players like Zach Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Mike Goff, and Bobby Engram??? I am sure that they will contribute and play well for the Chiefs at times.

If we were a team that were close to making a playoff run, I would welcome the addition of the older players, but the Chiefs are still developing their roster especially with the change to the 3-4.

If we are going to be bad, I would really rather see Brian Johnston play rather than Vrabel. And I would rather see Quinten Lawrence play rather than Engram.

Or are you one that believes that these older players provide valuable leadership???

milkman · 05-27-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

When you have a team that you know won't make the playoffs, I think you should look for those young guys that can be a building block for your team, not sign a bunch of old guys that won't help you long term.

And where exactly do you think they are going to find these young building blocks?

**DeezNutz** · 05-27-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Engram is 36.

Bradley was a street free agent that has shown that he has the ability to contribute and possibly be our #2 receiver.

He just go injured reading your praise of him. Out 2-4 weeks.

LaChapelle · 05-27-2009, 09:38 AM

I'd rather drive with a couple of half bald Uniroyals than two new tires fresh off the boat from /enter third world country here.

kcbubb · 05-27-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You should be banned for life for even thinking that Herms dipshittery was the best...

6 wins in 2 years? 15 in 3?

You have to be ****ing kidding right?

I don't know if you are talking to me or the other guy.

I don't like a lot of what Herm did, but I would rather have younger players than older ones on a bad team.

At least I can see who may turn into a player and who may not and try to build roster.

Is Engram or Thomas going to be here next year??? If not, then what good are they 3 years from now???

**Reaper16** · 05-27-2009, 09:39 AM

Herm's "way" was what the franchise needed -- a total youth movement. The problem was that Herm specifically couldn't coach at all.

**DeezNutz** · 05-27-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Herm's "way" was what the franchise needed -- a total youth movement. The problem was that Herm specifically couldn't coach at all.

We needed a youth movement, but I don't agree with the "total" part.

A mix of vet. and youth is what every team needs. Always playing for today, yet looking toward the future.

Reerun_KC · 05-27-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Herm's "way" was what the franchise needed -- a total youth movement. The problem was that Herm specifically couldn't coach at all.

True, he couldnt coach, develop or get the players that were needed for a youth movement...

Deberg_1990 · 05-27-2009, 09:43 AM

I especially enjoyed Herms philosophy of rebuilding a team without a QB the best.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-27-2009, 09:43 AM

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Reerun_KC · 05-27-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

I don't know if you are talking to me or the other guy.

I don't like a lot of what Herm did, but I would rather have younger players than older ones on a bad team.

At least I can see who may turn into a player and who may not and try to build roster.

Is Engram or Thomas going to be here next year??? If not, then what good are they 3 years from now???

They are stop gap players to fill voids from where Herm failed to address those spots properly..

Herm failed, Pioli and Haley are patching it to try and make it work. He left this team so full of holes, it will take 3 years to address everything Herm tried to address and EPICALLY FAILED!

Reerun_KC · 05-27-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I especially enjoyed Herms philosophy of rebuilding a team without a QB the best.

But we have Croyle and Thigpen, Oh and Claythans and Hooties love stud Huard...

kcbubb · 05-27-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We needed a youth movement, but I don't agree with the "total" part.

A mix of vet. and youth is what every team needs. Always playing for today, yet looking toward the future.

that sounds like the Carl Peterson method to me.

I think that when you reasonably believe that you will suck that you need to go with all young guys.

if you have a competitive team, then you can sign some older free agents to fill the holes.

kcbubb · 05-27-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

They are stop gap players to fill voids from where Herm failed to address those spots properly..

Herm failed, Pioli and Haley are patching it to try and make it work. He left this team so full of holes, it will take 3 years to address everything Herm tried to address and EPICALLY FAILED!

why not try to fill them now??? is engram or thomas going to be here next year? why wait?

that's my point, why not try to find a guy that can fill those spots that could have a future and then you may have one less hole to fill or maybe even a little depth if you have to upgrade.

Reerun_KC · 05-27-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

why not try to fill them now??? is engram or thomas going to be here next year? why wait?

that's my point, why not try to find a guy that can fill those spots that could have a future and then you may have one less hole to fill or maybe even a little depth if you have to upgrade.

Where are you going to get those players? off the street?

**Buehler445** · 05-27-2009, 09:52 AM

Dude, kcbubb, this team was a giant shit sandwich. The vets are not here to make a superbowl run. They were brought in totemporarily fill holes until we can get a building block or two in here. Looking at who else they could have had, in most cases (except maybe Engram) you can see that they wanted a couple vets with leadership than some worthless Sammy Parker-esque scrub that we could have brought in. They're both unlikely to be around after next year anyway.
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05-27-2009, 09:24 AM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5016719	I like Herm's method better... I would rather play with a bunch of young players and develop them than sign a bunch of old guys if we know that we are going to be bad. Most people seem to believe that the Chiefs are going to be lucky to win six games. If that is the case, why not look for the next Brandon Carr, Mark Bradley or Mike Cox??? It's hard to find those guys if they don't get a chance to play. Why are we wasting this valuable playing time on players like Zach Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Mike Goff, and Bobby Engram??? I am sure that they will contribute and play well for the Chiefs at times. If we were a team that were close to making a playoff run, I would welcome the addition of the older players, but the Chiefs are still developing their roster especially with the change to the 3-4. If we are going to be bad, I would really rather see Brian Johnston play rather than Vrabel. And I would rather see Quinten Lawrence play rather than Engram. Or are you one that believes that these older players provide valuable leadership???
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