Chiefs Cassel Vs Sanchez - Page 15

Titty Meat · 08-14-2009, 06:49 PM

Also known as the Chiefsplanet Civil War. I made this thread not to talk smack but to compare how each player plays. Sanchez looked great tonight despite missing half of the Jets O-line.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-15-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

If you're talking about me then tell me that you believe the Jets will be better than 8-8 THIS SEASON with Sanchez starting. Otherwise instead of trying to address me,

instead.

To answer your question, yes.

And now a question of my own:

Do the entrance gates at the Hall of Dumbassery really require a Guardian?

SenselessChiefsFan · 08-15-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I posted it for people that didn't see it...

Also honest question the Chiefs haven't used a 1st round pick on a QB since 83...is there any other team that has gone remotely that long? Even the expansion teams have used a first on a QB since then.

There are many GM's that don't feel drafting a Qb in round one is a necessity... especially if a good prospect isn't sitting there. Just drafting one to say you did it is pointless.

milkman · 08-15-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Depends what we're talking about.

As a person, all indications are that he's a waste of ****ing oxygen. As a football player, he's spectacular.

As fans, too often we get too hung up on the former. Personally, I don't give a **** if my team is comprised of a bunch of "good guys." Give me spectacular to nice every day of the week.

I don't necessarily need choir boys, but I want players on my team that are hardworking, give 100% effort every day and every play, and who aren't cancerous and devisve in the locker room.

Randy Moss is not a player like that, and for that reason, I want no part of him.

If the Chiefs had signed Michael Vick as an offensive weapon (not to specifically play QB), I would have had no problem with that, because for all of his flaws as a QB, and his off field issues, he is reputedly hard working.

milkman · 08-15-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well what about TO? He plays hard and people hate him just the same.

Discussed already.

He's a divisive, cancerous player.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't necessarily need choir boys, but I want players on my team that are hardworking, give 100% effort every day and every play, and who aren't cancerous and devisve in the locker room.

Randy Moss is not a player like that, and for that reason, I want no part of him.

If the Chiefs had signed Michael Vick as an offensive weapon (not to specifically play QB), I would have had no problem with that, because for all of his flaws as a QB, and his off field issues, he is reputedly hard working.

Pioli disagrees, so you must be wrong.

milkman · 08-15-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh, I agree that he takes plays off. Wish he wouldn't, but when you're arguably the most naturally gifted WR to play the game, you can do these kinds of things.

Ideal? Nope.

But I'd take Moss on my team every single day of the ****ing week.

But this still falls under the "person" category for me. He's not a hard worker. For many folks, not being a hard worker = not being a good person (in certain contexts).

Really, if Moss gave 100% effort every play, went all out to do everything to help his team play in and play out, would the Raiders have been as terrible in his last season there as they were?

I think not.

And in watching the Patriots last year, until he began to feel as though Cassel was a legitimate NFL QB, his effort, or lack thereof, hurt them in a couple of games, most notably the Steeler game.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Really, if Moss gave 100% effort every play, went all out to do everything to help his team play in and play out, would the Raiders have been as terrible in his last season there as they were?

I think not.

And in watching the Patriots last year, until he began to feel as though Cassel was a legitimate NFL QB, his effort, or lack thereof, hurt them in a couple of games, most notably the Steeler game.

Absolutely not.

Moss at 100% is the single most disruptive force in the NFL.

Pioli Zombie · 08-15-2009, 06:29 PM

Yeah, Randy Moss has really ****ed up the Patriots. I bet Belichick would like to cut him.
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milkman · 08-15-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Yeah, Randy Moss has really ****ed up the Patriots. I bet Belichick would like to cut him.
Posted via Mobile Device

Did anyone say he ****ed up the Pats?

He's a worthless bastard when he plays for a bad team.

He could help every team if he gave his all, even bad teams.

But if he doesn't think his team has much chance and fails to give it his all, he hurts his team, as he did with lacadasical effort in the game against the Steelers last year.

Titty Meat · 08-15-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

WTF?

.

Leave for a little bit, and this is what happens. Anyway, OTW provided all the evidence needed.

This belief that Pioli is a drafting god is pretty humorous. The Brady draft, without winning the ****ing world lottery in the 6th, was a complete ****ing disaster.

But, other than that, Pioli's perfect.

You don't make the playoffs every year without drafting good. Are you really going to deny the Patriots didn't draft good players?

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

You don't make the playoffs every year without drafting good. Are you really going to deny the Patriots didn't draft good players?

Of course they have drafted some good players...and so have the Chiefs. On the whole, NE has been better, but not unbelievably so. The Chiefs have been rather pathetic, whereas NE has been rather average. Both have years where they've been a complete train wreck in the draft.

The single biggest difference between the two organizations is that one hit the mega jackpot one year.

Just Passin' By · 08-15-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Of course they have drafted some good players...and so have the Chiefs. On the whole, NE has been better, but not unbelievably so. The Chiefs have been rather pathetic, whereas NE has been rather average. Both have years where they've been a complete train wreck in the draft.

The single biggest difference between the two organizations is that one hit the mega jackpot one year.

The Patriots have been one of the top 5 teams drafting in the NFL this decade.

Mecca · 08-15-2009, 09:53 PM

The Pats catch flack for drafts because their recent ones have been highly questionable.

A couple years ago they had 9 picks and Merriweather is the only guy still on the team...then they had the Maroney, Chad Jackson draft which is basically abysmal.

**DeezNutz** · 08-15-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Patriots have been one of the top 5 teams drafting in the NFL this decade.

Wow. Ok.

Mecca · 08-15-2009, 09:57 PM

If they're top 5 I'd think they're on the borderline.

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