Chiefs Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down) - Page 8

MGRS13 · 08-19-2009, 06:13 AM

Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe?

Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET
Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles.

And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout.

According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field.

Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough.

As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp.

But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 01:14 PM

If you stand them side by side....

Say the first group is..

Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss...the 2nd group is Anquan Boldin, Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Marshall...

Why is the 1st group more feared than the 2nd group?

Chiefnj2 · 08-19-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you stand them side by side....

Say the first group is..

Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss...the 2nd group is Anquan Boldin, Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Marshall...

Why is the 1st group more feared than the 2nd group?

Which group would Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin and a younger TO fall into? Fitz?

RustShack · 08-19-2009, 01:18 PM

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Take your own advice.

OK

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Bowe's not going anywhere, period. He's already one of the best receivers in the game and has even more potential to be right up there with Fitzgerald...well maybe a notch or two below.

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Yeah maybe not quite Fitzgerald but he certainly has it in him to be at least on par with Boldin.

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You think Boldin and Johnson are way better than Bowe?

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Yet Bowe put up better #'s his first two years than Johnson did?

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Great numbers are numbers Johnson plays on the worst team in the game. There isn't a person alive that would take Bowe over him, that's not to discount Bowe it's just that Calvin is a freak.

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I was speaking of Andre Johnson.

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And yet with more natural ability Andre Johnson wasn't able to put up better numbers than Bowe his first two years in the league.

I think people on this board greatly underestimate Bowe's ability as a WR. The grass is always greener.

Brock · 08-19-2009, 01:20 PM

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OK

You went to a lot of trouble to prove yourself wrong. Nice job, dumbo.

**Buehler445** · 08-19-2009, 01:22 PM

That is a decent take Mecca. I think Bowe has enough speed to be more than "just a possession receiver", but he is probably not as fast as Johnson. I think Bowe is a little more powerful and stronger than Johnson, and he knows how to use his body. I think he can cause a lot of problems to a secondary. Particularly if we could get another weapon to open up the field for him to break some tackles.
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Pablo · 08-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Eh, I see a lot of people saying Bowe put up better numbers than Johnson in his first two years...or that he could some day play like Fitz or Boldin. Not so much on the Bowe >>> Johnson.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 01:23 PM

I don't think he's stronger or more powerful, Andre is a giant guy.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 01:26 PM

If you watch this..

You can see what the difference in their natural gifts to Bowes would be.

RustShack · 08-19-2009, 01:27 PM

Is Bowe the type of receiver a guy like Lelie needs to finally break out? I'm not saying he will, but hes sure got the speed and a coach to help him out now along with a few good veteran receivers.

**Buehler445** · 08-19-2009, 01:27 PM

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I don't think he's stronger or more powerful, Andre is a giant guy.

Could be. I haven't watched the texans too much. But from what I have seen, Bowe plays a little bigger than Johnson. Maybe it is because no one could catch Johnson to make him use his power (Pollard, you ****ass). But most of the plays I have seen him make are speed plays. They run a simple little inside slant to him that he just rips people to shreds with.
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Halfcan · 08-19-2009, 01:36 PM

I really doub we trade Bowe-he is just too damm good.

Chiefnj2 · 08-19-2009, 01:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMtU-vZOaEA

Bowe highlights. I'd put his work up against A. Johnson's first two years in the league.

People really undervalue Bowe. He has some fantastic body control and is very physical.

Pablo · 08-19-2009, 01:50 PM

Bowe's "natural gifts" aren't exactly lacking..he's just not a speedster.

**CosmicPal** · 08-19-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

The music was so bad I couldn't stand to watch the video.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2009, 01:57 PM

Haha. Some clown really put rap to the Bowe highlight video I put together?

Here's the real one:

08-19-2009, 06:13 AM
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down) Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe? Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles. And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout. According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field. Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough. As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp. But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-772950	If you stand them side by side.... Say the first group is.. Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss...the 2nd group is Anquan Boldin, Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Marshall... Why is the 1st group more feared than the 2nd group?
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1665266	That is a decent take Mecca. I think Bowe has enough speed to be more than "just a possession receiver", but he is probably not as fast as Johnson. I think Bowe is a little more powerful and stronger than Johnson, and he knows how to use his body. I think he can cause a lot of problems to a secondary. Particularly if we could get another weapon to open up the field for him to break some tackles. Posted via Mobile Device
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1960644	Eh, I see a lot of people saying Bowe put up better numbers than Johnson in his first two years...or that he could some day play like Fitz or Boldin. Not so much on the Bowe >>> Johnson.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-772950	I don't think he's stronger or more powerful, Andre is a giant guy.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-772950	If you watch this.. You can see what the difference in their natural gifts to Bowes would be.
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3016954	Is Bowe the type of receiver a guy like Lelie needs to finally break out? I'm not saying he will, but hes sure got the speed and a coach to help him out now along with a few good veteran receivers. __________________
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	I really doub we trade Bowe-he is just too damm good.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMtU-vZOaEA Bowe highlights. I'd put his work up against A. Johnson's first two years in the league. People really undervalue Bowe. He has some fantastic body control and is very physical. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1960644	Bowe's "natural gifts" aren't exactly lacking..he's just not a speedster.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $730478	Haha. Some clown really put rap to the Bowe highlight video I put together? Here's the real one: __________________ Chiefs game films
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