Chiefs the ULTIMATE Jon Runyan thread. (Runyan in KC for a workout...) - Page 3

MMXcalibur · 05:08 PM

This thread is a combination of the following 3 threads...

AUSTINCHIEF- *************************************
ok, I have mentioned before that I would love to see Runyan in KC...

I decided to start my own thread about it... because... well... I can.

So, here are my reasons why...

#1 all the obvious reasons... he is a pro bowler, proven player, definite upgrade, etc etc

#2 another fairly obvious one... Ndukwe would be better used at RG and this would let him move there.

#3 now we get to the good stuff... ON THE FIELD he is a nasty, mean, dirty S.O.B.

#4 OFF THE FIELD, he is a stand up guy, nice etc...

IF he can give us 2 solid years, he is well worth the investment until we can groom someone to replace him... MOST IMPORTANTLY he sets a perfect example of what our linemen of the future should aspire to be.

KCtotheSB*****************************************
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ready-to-roll/

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Runyan is ready to roll
Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2009 1:33 PM ET
As the regular season approaches, a guy who has been on the field every Sunday since 1997 still doesn't have a job.

But, by all indications, he will soon.

Per a league source, tackle Jon Runyan has been cleared to play after offseason microfracture surgery to repair an injured knee.

We're told that three teams are interested in Runyan. According to the source, Runyan rejected an opportunity to sign a contract last week because he didn't want to play for the team in question.

Oakland Raiders? We're looking at you.

Given the rule that guarantees a vested veteran's salary if he's on the Week One roster, look for Runyan to do a deal after the first games are played.

But if there are multiple teams in the mix, the one that's willing to step up and sign him now could be the one to get him.

Except for the Raiders.

I imagine we're one of the three teams that are interested, but were we the one team Runyan told to "**** off."?

BigEd*****************************************
Runyan in KC for a workout

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ut-runyan.html

**DeezNutz** · 09-08-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

if we had a capable #2 wr and a good R T we would be a pretty good offense. we have a qb who can make all the throws when he has time, we have 2 pretty good rbs, and a reciever who is close to being elite. sounds similar to atlanta of last year to me.

Do we know this, definitively?

Offensively, ATL has a ton more talent than KC.

WilliamTheIrish · 09-08-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The only good thing that I can see happening from getting Runyan to play RT.....is that Ndukwe can move to RG where I think he's better suited. We still need to find a replacement for Niswanger though. That dude is ****ing garbage.

True.

But at this point in Runyan's career, after this microfracture in his knee, who's to say he's any better than what we have?

Signing him MIGHT solve our RT problem.

IMO, there's just as good a chance it won't.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.

Agreed.

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

True.

But at this point in Runyan's career, after this microfracture in his knee, who's to say he's any better than what we have?

Signing him MIGHT solve our RT problem.

IMO, there's just as good a chance it won't.

I'd honestly sign him to a one year deal and let him battle it out with O'Connell for the starting job. I would much rather do that then neglect the RG position by keeping Ndukwe at RT. Goff is horrible...and so is Niswanger.

Titty Meat · 09-08-2009, 01:41 PM

Yea just what the Chiefs need. A 35 year old linemen coming off microfracture surgery.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd honestly sign him to a one year deal and let him battle it out with O'Connell for the starting job. I would much rather do that then neglect the RG position by keeping Ndukwe at RT. Goff is horrible...and so is Niswanger.

I agree.

I'm just not expecting much if we do sign him, unlike others who are proclaiming that this offense is a Jon Runyan away from being good.

**Lzen** · 09-08-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

A good RT and a solid #2 WR would make a BIG difference in what this team can be.

True. But I am not real confident in Goff, either. Need an upgrade at RG, too.

Fish · 09-08-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Light years? No.

And a solid RT that solidifies the edge could give you as many as 3 or 4 more wins because now your quarterback can set up in the pocket and go through his reads and make better decisions. Football is generally a chain reaction and when you look at this teams biggest problem it's protection from the right side. It doesn't matter if you have Tom Brady back there if he's getting his ass kicked on every drop back.

A solid right tackle could be the difference from this team being 4-12 to 8-8.

A 4 win difference?

All a defense would have to do is attack the center or right guard instead of RT. One (average) RT isn't going to be able to block everything to the right of Brian Waters. Which is what is needed at this point. If you've been watching at all this preseason, you'd see that the OLine has serious issues and it's not just RT by any means.

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I agree.

I'm just not expecting much if we do sign him, unlike others who are proclaiming that this offense is a Jon Runyan away from being good.

I'm not expecting much either. I'm looking to sign him to one year deal in hopes that he can at least help keep Cassel alive back there for the year. We're still:

2 WRs
1 TE
1 OC
2 OG
1 OT
1 RB

away from being good.

TheGuardian · 09-08-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Yes, light years.

Adding Runyon doesn't stop Rudy and the TE of the day from being decidedly below average. The OLine is a shambles. And I think this team will endure the "culture of losing" for at least another season, before things are in place for the turnaround.

We win 3 w/o Runyon.

We win 4 w/ Runyon.

I don't care if it's Runyan or whoever, the point is a right tackle that can solidify that edge is worth more than 1 win because of the impact on the overall offense. That's simply a fact if your achilles heel is the right tackle spot. If your quarterback can setup in the pocket and your WR's can get down the field then it opens up the playbook more and production increases. Now you've moved that 8th man from the box back out of it and the running game improves. A weak link on the edge of the line will kill every offense.

So light years? No.

**DeezNutz** · 09-08-2009, 01:46 PM

KC fans loves them some RT.

DBOSHO · 09-08-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Do we know this, definitively?

Offensively, ATL has a ton more talent than KC.

they are similar though.
cassel ryan
bowe white even though white is a better deep threat.
larry turner
charles norwood
Random TEs

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

they are similar though.
cassel ryan
bowe white even though white is a better deep threat.
larry turner
charles norwood
Random TEs

DBOSHO · 09-08-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

your right they are nothing alike

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