Chiefs Turk McBride Gone.... - Page 6

aturnis · 09-15-2009, 02:41 PM

Wade in.

Marcellus · 09-15-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Least talented roster in football folks.

While I am sure we are a shoe in for bottom 3, you really have to wonder about Cinci and Detroit. Cinci can't get out of their own way period and Detroit is well, Detroit. Say what you want about names on a roster, bla,bla,bla, the proof is in the performance.

Oh yea, how many points did Gunther's defense give up Sunday?

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Oh yea, how many points did Gunther's defense give up Sunday?

At least it was against one of the best offenses in the league.

jaa1025 · 09-15-2009, 03:51 PM

The next logical cut/trade is Thigpen/Croyle/Gutierrez. They don't need to keep 4 QB's on the roster with when they all have trade value. Thigpen is definitely the odd man out but I doubt he holds the highest trade value.

Unfortunately, the Raiders and Bronco's seem to be the QB hungriest teams out there. The Raiders might be dumb enough to give a 1st rounder for Croyle and the Bronco's I could see going hard after Gutierrez.

keg in kc · 09-15-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

At least it was against one of the best offenses in the league.

The Ravens may end up being one of the best offenses in the league, as well. It's hard to say.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The Ravens may end up being one of the best offenses in the league, as well. It's hard to say.

I kinda doubt it but we'll see.

Their receivers don't scare anyone and Ray Rice is small.

veist · 09-15-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He'll be a good receiver for the Chiefs. The Vikings are loaded at receiver, which is why he was cut.

I expect him to get around 500-600 yards in the next 15 games with 3TD's.

That averages out to a couple of catches a game for 30 to 40 yards.

Loaded with potential, you can blame the QBs for the poor production but they still have to prove that they can produce. Berrian is a real speedster with questionable hands, Rice has spent a lot of time injured but has talent and Harvin is immensely talented but has questions to answer too. Bottom line though is Wade wasn't going to be paid the $4M or whatever to be Harvin's backup.

LaChapelle · 09-15-2009, 03:54 PM

Turk and Pollard 2 -2cond rounders
Castle and Vrabel 1-2cnd rounder
hmmmmmmm

BWillie · 09-15-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

The next logical cut/trade is Thigpen/Croyle/Gutierrez. They don't need to keep 4 QB's on the roster with when they all have trade value. Thigpen is definitely the odd man out but I doubt he holds the highest trade value.

Unfortunately, the Raiders and Bronco's seem to be the QB hungriest teams out there. The Raiders might be dumb enough to give a 1st rounder for Croyle and the Bronco's I could see going hard after Gutierrez.

Hopefully is Cassel is out Sunday - Croyle lights it up for a career day. Something like 350 3TD's no INT , and then we can trade him and get a decent pick. Best case scenario I think. I don't think anybody is going to give us jack for Pigpen

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

Hopefully is Cassel is out Sunday - Croyle lights it up for a career day. Something like 350 3TD's no INT , and then we can trade him and get a decent pick. Best case scenario I think.

Are you serious?

**ShortRoundChief** · 09-15-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

The next logical cut/trade is Thigpen/Croyle/Gutierrez. They don't need to keep 4 QB's on the roster with when they all have trade value. Thigpen is definitely the odd man out but I doubt he holds the highest trade value.

Unfortunately, the Raiders and Bronco's seem to be the QB hungriest teams out there. The Raiders might be dumb enough to give a 1st rounder for Croyle and the Bronco's I could see going hard after Gutierrez.

Normally I'd agree with you but due to kc's offensive line they may actually need to get another qb.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-15-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Turk and Pollard 2 -2cond rounders
Castle and Vrabel 1-2cnd rounder
hmmmmmmm

We may be pulling in less smelly turds, but at least we're fishing.

WWCD(what would Carl do)?

He'd send dumb**** out to tell us that the last 15% was in place, and we're READY TO ROLL!!!!
And then he'd go to Plaza III with Tony and October, drink his wine, and try to convince Gonzales that the 5 year plan under himself and Herm is actually a better 5 year plan than he had with Marty, and he just needs to stick it out and
"gnumm-gnumm-gnumm...pass the butter please....gnumm-gnumm-gnumm...glug-glug-glug..."more wine"!

keg in kc · 09-15-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I kinda doubt it but we'll see.

Their receivers don't scare anyone and Ray Rice is small.

They may not scare anybody, but Mason's been a thousand-yard receiver for 8 of the last 9 years, Clayton quietly averaged 17 yards/catch last year and Heap's about as good as any TE in the league. Rice isn't much smaller than Priest Holmes and he's a lot bigger than Darren Sproles. If their line (which is both solid and young) is consistent and Flacco continues to progress, I think they're going to put up some points.

In fact, I'm not sure that offense, personnel-wise, is all that different from the KC or SD offenses from 2002-2003, and they just happen to have both of the offensive coordinators from those two teams.

htismaqe · 09-15-2009, 04:18 PM

Turk was in a no-win situation here. He's best-suited to be an undersized 3-technique for a Cover 2 defense. The brain trust that ran such a defense decided to move him to defense end (so much for Herm actually understanding the Tampa 2).

And then we went to a 3-4 and the guy basically has no position.

He'd make a good backup somewhere like Indy or Chicago.

KCCHIEFS27 · 09-15-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

Hopefully Cassel is out Sunday - Croyle lights it up for a career day. Something like 350 3TD's no INT , and then we can trade him and get a decent pick. Best case scenario I think.

Why stop there? LJ runs for 200+ and 5 TD's, Dorsey has 6 sacks and Derrick Johnson turns into Bobby Boucher.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Turk was in a no-win situation here. He's best-suited to be an undersized 3-technique for a Cover 2 defense. The brain trust that ran such a defense decided to move him to defense end (so much for Herm actually understanding the Tampa 2).

And then we went to a 3-4 and the guy basically has no position.

He'd make a good backup somewhere like Indy or Chicago.

He's got some talent and he's not stupid. He'll latch on somewhere for sure.

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jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	The next logical cut/trade is Thigpen/Croyle/Gutierrez. They don't need to keep 4 QB's on the roster with when they all have trade value. Thigpen is definitely the odd man out but I doubt he holds the highest trade value. Unfortunately, the Raiders and Bronco's seem to be the QB hungriest teams out there. The Raiders might be dumb enough to give a 1st rounder for Croyle and the Bronco's I could see going hard after Gutierrez.
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LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Turk and Pollard 2 -2cond rounders Castle and Vrabel 1-2cnd rounder hmmmmmmm
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8139900	Turk was in a no-win situation here. He's best-suited to be an undersized 3-technique for a Cover 2 defense. The brain trust that ran such a defense decided to move him to defense end (so much for Herm actually understanding the Tampa 2). And then we went to a 3-4 and the guy basically has no position. He'd make a good backup somewhere like Indy or Chicago.
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