Chiefs Hard not to like the improvement in WRs...

Direckshun · 09-17-2009, 02:11 AM

What was our depth chart at this time last year? Can we go back that far?

Now we've got a legit stud (Bowe), two players with good-to-great ability (Bradley & Wade), an uber-experienced vet (Engram), and a young athlete who needs a ton of refining (Lawrence).

This corps goes from good to brilliant if we find someway to add another stud -- not even a stud, just a really reliably good, game-in-game-out compliment to Bowe.

Direckshun · 09-17-2009, 02:14 AM

My best attempt to go back one year... tell me if I'm wrong:

Bowe, Darling, Webb, Franklin, Robinson?, Sams?

We hadn't added Bradley yet.

Mecca · 09-17-2009, 02:15 AM

I think you're being overly nice to be honest with you.

Direckshun · 09-17-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think you're being overly nice to be honest with you.

That's fair. Maybe the long night is getting to me.

But what do we have? Compare our roster to last year's.

Bowe is a legit stud with Pro Bowl Talent, Bradley is immensely talented if only he can work on some mental fundamentals and improve his durability, Wade is a solid if unspectacular #2, which I don't think we've had in a decade, Engram will be good for a few yards every game and perhaps some tutorial ability. And Lawrence is a standard raw project. Every roster should have one of those.

All that seems pretty clear from debate. Obviously it will need an upgrade but this is already a huuuuge upgrade from last year, and it took the form of a complete reconstruction. Nobody, but Bowe, is the same.

Mecca · 09-17-2009, 02:24 AM

I hate doing that because our WR's last year were asshole too.

I think you should always place your value on the position with the rest of the league. Basically ask yourself how many of these guys can play on a winning team.

Bowe's a starter regardless of team and Wade is probably a 3 or a 4 the rest of those guys it's pretty tough to find them a spot. Something is better than nothing but we still have a long way to go at that position.

**Rausch** · 09-17-2009, 02:27 AM

I'm not any kind of impressed at WR or O line...

Hootie · 09-17-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm not any kind of impressed at WR or O line...

This.

Mecca · 09-17-2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm not any kind of impressed at WR or O line...

This team is a long way a way as far as talent goes.

TrickyNicky · 09-17-2009, 02:40 AM

with proper coaching and a few more drafts, I think we'll be right back where we always wanted to be.

8-8.

Hootie · 09-17-2009, 02:42 AM

I still wish we would find a "Larry Fitzgerald" for our Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe is a solid #2, maybe a decent #1.

Hammock Parties · 09-17-2009, 03:00 AM

We have one good receiver (Bowe), one average receiver (Bradley), and the rest are role players (Engram and Wade) or complete crap (Lawrence).

Not impressed. They don't scare any defensive coordinators.

We need another guy at Bowe's level or better that's a true deep threat to be a great offense. And that is what Haley will be shooting for. As it is now this group needs a good line and great running game to make them more of a threat. We certainly don't have that. This group of receivers probably would have done well on Vermeil's teams, though.

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Wade is a solid if unspectacular #2

There is no way this is a true statement. Wade is a third-down slot specialist like Engram.

Hootie · 09-17-2009, 03:03 AM

at this point, I just want to see what Cassel brings to the table.

Chiefs=Champions · 09-17-2009, 03:12 AM

Seriously though, how many teams actually have 2 WRs at Bowes level or better..?

Hootie · 09-17-2009, 03:15 AM

Bowe's a tweener man...

He's 'meh' as a #1...or an excellent #2.

Chiefs=Champions · 09-17-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

Bowe's a tweener man...

He's 'meh' as a #1...or an excellent #2.

I dunno i think he has quite a bit of potential... I mean hes obviously not a Larry Fitz or a Andre Johnson but i think hes up there...

I think hes way more than an excellent #2 more like a super star IMHO...

09-17-2009, 02:11 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Hard not to like the improvement in WRs... What was our depth chart at this time last year? Can we go back that far? Now we've got a legit stud (Bowe), two players with good-to-great ability (Bradley & Wade), an uber-experienced vet (Engram), and a young athlete who needs a ton of refining (Lawrence). This corps goes from good to brilliant if we find someway to add another stud -- not even a stud, just a really reliably good, game-in-game-out compliment to Bowe.
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09-17-2009, 02:15 AM	#3
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-672950	I think you're being overly nice to be honest with you.
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09-17-2009, 02:24 AM	#5
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-672950	I hate doing that because our WR's last year were asshole too. I think you should always place your value on the position with the rest of the league. Basically ask yourself how many of these guys can play on a winning team. Bowe's a starter regardless of team and Wade is probably a 3 or a 4 the rest of those guys it's pretty tough to find them a spot. Something is better than nothing but we still have a long way to go at that position.
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09-17-2009, 02:40 AM	#9
TrickyNicky My Black Friend, Alan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manhattan Casino cash: $10007047	with proper coaching and a few more drafts, I think we'll be right back where we always wanted to be. 8-8.
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09-17-2009, 02:42 AM	#10
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I still wish we would find a "Larry Fitzgerald" for our Dwayne Bowe. Bowe is a solid #2, maybe a decent #1.
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09-17-2009, 02:14 AM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	My best attempt to go back one year... tell me if I'm wrong: Bowe, Darling, Webb, Franklin, Robinson?, Sams? We hadn't added Bradley yet.
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09-17-2009, 03:03 AM	#12
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	at this point, I just want to see what Cassel brings to the table.
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09-17-2009, 03:12 AM	#13
Chiefs=Champions Training Camp Hero Join Date: Oct 2006 Casino cash: $7974801	Seriously though, how many teams actually have 2 WRs at Bowes level or better..?
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09-17-2009, 03:15 AM	#14
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Bowe's a tweener man... He's 'meh' as a #1...or an excellent #2.
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