NFL Draft Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays - Page 10

**RealSNR** · 09-14-2009, 06:08 PM

No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.

I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that?

Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?

Chiefnj2 · 09-21-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

Next year is going to be hell if its uncapped. Most of the decent free agents are going to be RFA because they aren't 6 years vets. Which will make hitting on our draft picks even more important. I want a sure thing, and I think Mays is as sure-fire as it gets.

Excellent point. There won't be much in the FA market. That means this past years draft must really step up and KC must find starters from day 1 in next years draft or the 2010 season could be pretty bad.

**The Franchise** · 09-21-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

After watching the highlights of Tebow plow right through Berry, Im on the Mays bandwagon.

You can't tackle Jesus.

Basileus777 · 09-21-2009, 11:59 AM

I'm not as sold on Mays as others here. He is a great straight line athlete, but his lateral agility is mediocre, he has no ball skills, he is a head hunter and he doesn't wrap up.

I think Mays is the type of player who will be pretty good for a while, but will never end up as a dominant player or someone you can build a defense around.

eazyb81 · 09-21-2009, 12:02 PM

Mays is a tremendous athlete, but it sometimes seems like he disappears on the field during stretches. Now one can of course argue that he's shutting down his portion of the field and QBs aren't throwing to him, but that really never happens to Berry. You watch UT play, Berry is all over the field making his presence known. You can't help but notice him.

I think Berry is a remarkable football player and I would definitely take him over Mays, no question. He's the next Ed Reed.

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2009, 12:17 PM

Didn't i just see Tebow hit and bounce off Berry saturday?

**The Franchise** · 09-21-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Didn't i just see Tebow hit and bounce off Berry saturday?

See post #137.

Coogs · 09-21-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanka

After watching the highlights of Tebow plow right through Berry, Im on the Mays bandwagon.

I did not watch all of this game, but if the play you are referring to is fairly early in the game down around the Tennessee 10 yard line, you have to take your hat off to both players. Tebow went pretty much straight down like a falling sack of potatoes. Berry, however did go backwards, giving somewhat of an illusion that Tebow ran him over. Hell of a hit from both of them.

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

See post #137.

I thought that was him, my first thought was "why didn't Beery knock the crap out of the QB!"

He just stood there

Coogs · 09-21-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I thought that was him, my first thought was "why didn't Beery knock the crap out of the QB!"

He just stood there

I must not have had the correct play then?

El Jefe · 09-21-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Mays is a tremendous athlete, but it sometimes seems like he disappears on the field during stretches. Now one can of course argue that he's shutting down his portion of the field and QBs aren't throwing to him, but that really never happens to Berry. You watch UT play, Berry is all over the field making his presence known. You can't help but notice him.

I think Berry is a remarkable football player and I would definitely take him over Mays, no question. He's the next Ed Reed.

I agree 100%, good post.

El Jefe · 09-21-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I thought that was him, my first thought was "why didn't Beery knock the crap out of the QB!"

He just stood there

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I must not have had the correct play then?

No you had the right play, Berry met him head on, Tebow went down, Berry went backwards a little bit. He didnt get truck sticked.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-21-2009, 02:13 PM

I think football instincts wise, Berry has Mays by a mile. I think athleticism, Mays has Berry.

I'll take the guy with great football instincts. I don't give a shit about the guaranteed money he would command with where we are drafting, we have to get Eric Berry.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-21-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I think football instincts wise, Berry has Mays by a mile. I think athleticism, Mays has Berry.

I'll take the guy with great football instincts. I don't give a shit about the guaranteed money he would command with where we are drafting, we have to get Eric Berry.

This.

Pablo · 09-21-2009, 04:19 PM

Go ahead and make room for me on the Eric Berry bandwagon.

The dude is an absolute ball hawk. He was everywhere. All day, every day. He was in the back field, in coverage, deflecting passes, stuffing the run, and even made a hella nice INT on Jesus. I've watched him play once and I'm sold. I've seen Mays play a couple times and he's one hell of a safety and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Chiefs uniform; but I'd kill for Berry. That guy is gonna be a star for a long time in this league. Our secondary would be ****ing sick...just beastly.

KC kid · 09-21-2009, 06:41 PM

It is Berry and it is not that close

09-14-2009, 06:08 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1584792	Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick. I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that? Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?
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09-21-2009, 11:59 AM	#138
Basileus777 MVP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Casino cash: $2165958	I'm not as sold on Mays as others here. He is a great straight line athlete, but his lateral agility is mediocre, he has no ball skills, he is a head hunter and he doesn't wrap up. I think Mays is the type of player who will be pretty good for a while, but will never end up as a dominant player or someone you can build a defense around.
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09-21-2009, 12:02 PM	#139
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	Mays is a tremendous athlete, but it sometimes seems like he disappears on the field during stretches. Now one can of course argue that he's shutting down his portion of the field and QBs aren't throwing to him, but that really never happens to Berry. You watch UT play, Berry is all over the field making his presence known. You can't help but notice him. I think Berry is a remarkable football player and I would definitely take him over Mays, no question. He's the next Ed Reed.
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09-21-2009, 12:17 PM	#140
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09-21-2009, 02:13 PM	#147
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9273645	I think football instincts wise, Berry has Mays by a mile. I think athleticism, Mays has Berry. I'll take the guy with great football instincts. I don't give a shit about the guaranteed money he would command with where we are drafting, we have to get Eric Berry. __________________
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09-21-2009, 04:19 PM	#149
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1940644	Go ahead and make room for me on the Eric Berry bandwagon. The dude is an absolute ball hawk. He was everywhere. All day, every day. He was in the back field, in coverage, deflecting passes, stuffing the run, and even made a hella nice INT on Jesus. I've watched him play once and I'm sold. I've seen Mays play a couple times and he's one hell of a safety and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Chiefs uniform; but I'd kill for Berry. That guy is gonna be a star for a long time in this league. Our secondary would be ****ing sick...just beastly.
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09-21-2009, 06:41 PM	#150
KC kid Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $10004940	It is Berry and it is not that close
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