I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

[JuicesFlowing]

Originally Posted by FAX

Dang. "Fire Haley!" "Kill Haley!" "Decapitate Haley!" "Burn Haley!" "Drink Haley's Blood And Eat His Spleen!"

I admire the enthusiasm, but seriously, you can't have10 penalties for almost 100 yards on the road against anybody in the NFL. Talent-wise, we are a very bad team and Haley's been right all along; we can't afford any mistakes - even against average teams - if we're going to give ourselves a chance.

Haley is not going to lose the team (unless it's via the waiver wire, or by trade). He's not going to quit. And, he's not going to buy a gallon of gas and set himself on fire in front of the Jason Whitlock's house.

All of us (including Haley) just saw how far we have to go. We were outplayed and outclassed by a far superior team. We're not 85% of the way there. We may not be 20% of the way there. This is going to take years ... many, many years.

I don't think we converted a single third down today. Some fans need to run laps.

FAX

Fax, if you posted this as the first reply, a mod could have closed the thread. But really, we all like running up our post counts debating hilarious bullshit. In other words, well said ....

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by FAX

Dang. "Fire Haley!" "Kill Haley!" "Decapitate Haley!" "Burn Haley!" "Drink Haley's Blood And Eat His Spleen!"

I admire the enthusiasm, but seriously, you can't have10 penalties for almost 100 yards on the road against anybody in the NFL. Talent-wise, we are a very bad team and Haley's been right all along; we can't afford any mistakes - even against average teams - if we're going to give ourselves a chance.

Haley is not going to lose the team (unless it's via the waiver wire, or by trade). He's not going to quit. And, he's not going to buy a gallon of gas and set himself on fire in front of the Jason Whitlock's house.

All of us (including Haley) just saw how far we have to go. We were outplayed and outclassed by a far superior team. We're not 85% of the way there. We may not be 20% of the way there. This is going to take years ... many, many years.

I don't think we converted a single third down today. Some fans need to run laps.

FAX

Which is probably why people are getting pissed.

Talent and discipline are two different things.

We know the team isn't talented.

We've also learned that the team isn't disciplined, which is a bit of a concern seeing as how Haley is a so-called disciplinarian.

To me, a loss is a loss, regardless of why.

To others, losing may be acceptable when you know we have such a lack of talent. But it may not be acceptable to see them lose the way they are losing - negating big plays, scoring or otherwise because of a lack of discipline.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FAX

Dang. "Fire Haley!" "Kill Haley!" "Decapitate Haley!" "Burn Haley!" "Drink Haley's Blood And Eat His Spleen!"

I admire the enthusiasm, but seriously, you can't have10 penalties for almost 100 yards on the road against anybody in the NFL. Talent-wise, we are a very bad team and Haley's been right all along; we can't afford any mistakes - even against average teams - if we're going to give ourselves a chance.

Haley is not going to lose the team (unless it's via the waiver wire, or by trade). He's not going to quit. And, he's not going to buy a gallon of gas and set himself on fire in front of the Jason Whitlock's house.

All of us (including Haley) just saw how far we have to go. We were outplayed and outclassed by a far superior team. We're not 85% of the way there. We may not be 20% of the way there. This is going to take years ... many, many years.

I don't think we converted a single third down today. Some fans need to run laps.

FAX

I absolutely agree.

However, it's time for Haley to show that this "right 53" thing isn't glorified favoritism. The guys committing the penalties (Ndukwe) need to be dealt with the same way that DJ and Bowe were dealt with.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We've also learned that the team isn't disciplined, which is a bit of a concern seeing as how Haley is a so-called disciplinarian.

This.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To others, losing may be acceptable when you know we have such a lack of talent. But it may not be acceptable to see them lose the way they are losing - negating big plays, scoring or otherwise because of a lack of discipline.

And this.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by FAX

I don't think we converted a single third down today.

which is exactly why haley is a dipshit. all he called all day on third and long was handoffs and 3 yard passes.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I absolutely agree.

However, it's time for Haley to show that this "right 53" thing isn't glorified favoritism. The guys committing the penalties (Ndukwe) need to be dealt with the same way that DJ and Bowe were dealt with.

The problem, however, is that Haley has created a slippery slope.

He can't deactivate the entire ****ing team, so now he has to pick and choose. Appearing capricious isn't very desirable...

[okcchief]

I don't think it matters if he loses the team. Over half of them will be gone in two years. Our roster is ****ing pathetic.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The problem, however, is that Haley has created a slippery slope.

He can't deactivate the entire ****ing team, so now he has to pick and choose. Appearing capricious isn't very desirable...

If he benches every guy that ****s up, we wont be able to field a team...

[munkey]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This is a game where we were horribly outmatched. It reminds me of the Eagles game several years ago when we played without Roaf.

I'm not too upset at Haley for the way the game was coached. I'm upset that his players still make boneheaded mistakes. But the playcalling is fine. There's nothing you can do when on every pass play, at least two pass rushers are getting to Cassel unblocked.

I'm more pissed at Pioli for not realizing this was a problem sooner. Haley is doing the best he can with what he was given.

That being said, this is an interesting test for Haley. Yellers and screamers have a hard time yelling, when players don't buy into what you're selling. It reminds me of when Coughlin was almost ousted several years ago.

THIS

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

which is exactly why haley is a dipshit. all he called all day on third and long was handoffs and 3 yard passes.

You weren't impressed going 0-11 on 3rd down?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

If he benches every guy that ****s up, we wont be able to field a team...

Exactly.

Thus my point about appearing capricious in deciding whom he "punishes."

[chiefs1111]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If they play like they did today they won't beat anyone.

At this point the Chiefs are so bad they couldn't beat an All Star team made up of College All Stars

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You weren't impressed going 0-11 on 3rd down?

not exactly. i thought herm edwards and chan gailey were bad, but today was by far the worst offensive gameplan i have ever seen.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

At this point the Chiefs are so bad they couldn't beat an All Star team made up of College All Stars

Let's not get too carried away.

Even as shitty as they are, they'd fist **** the best college team one could assemble.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

not exactly. i thought herm edwards and chan gailey were bad, but today was by far the worst offensive gameplan i have ever seen.

Don't get carried away. Herm's gameplan against the Colts in '06 was total ass. THAT was the worst offensive gameplan I have ever seen.