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Old 09-30-2009, 07:22 AM  
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Jake Locker #1 prospect?
I was only half paying attention to ESPN radio this morning, but I believe Mort was on and said that according to scouts, it looks like Jake Locker would be the #1 QB prospect ahead of Bradford if he were to declare.

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Old 09-30-2009, 09:06 AM   #16
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Locker was going to be a top prospect LAST YEAR before the entire team fell on their faces.

He's got far more NFL upside than Bradford. FAR more.
The stats don't agree with your argument at all. Stats aren't everything but when there is this much of a difference...

Bradford 07-08: 341 attempts, 237 comp, 3121 yards, 8 ints, 36tds, 12 sacks, 176.5 rating
Locker 07-08: 328 attempts, 155 comp, 2062 yards, 15 ints, 14 tds, 18 sacks, 105.0 rating

Also, Bradford is taller.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:14 AM   #17
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The stats don't agree with your argument at all. Stats aren't everything but when there is this much of a difference...

Bradford 07-08: 341 attempts, 237 comp, 3121 yards, 8 ints, 36tds, 12 sacks, 176.5 rating
Locker 07-08: 328 attempts, 155 comp, 2062 yards, 15 ints, 14 tds, 18 sacks, 105.0 rating

Also, Bradford is taller.
Bradford plays in a spread offense and his WR's are constantly WIDE open. He doesn't make complex reads in that scheme either.

Bradford plays for a team with an INFINITELY better offensive line.

Locker has more things you look for in a pro QB.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:18 AM   #18
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Now that Locker has a better coach I see him not in style of play but impact similar to cutler. Taking a doormat team and making them respectable. Sometimes that is a bigger hill to climb than a NC for a powerhouse.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:18 AM   #19
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Bradford plays in a spread offense and his WR's are constantly WIDE open. He doesn't make complex reads in that scheme either.

Bradford plays for a team with an INFINITELY better offensive line.

Locker has more things you look for in a pro QB.
Like throwing more Ints than TDs?

Okay, assume we're talking about the drafting style of an NFL team other than the Chiefs.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:02 AM   #20
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Yeah, enough. Bradford played on a team last year with a Second Round OLT, a Sixth Round OLG, a C now on the Vikes? active roster, and an ORG cut by the Texans for a DUI. The ORT was a junior and a projected FIRST. Jake Locker had JACK on the OL.

Bradford hasn't thrown a ball since the shoulder got hurt. Wait until he does to see if he has any prayer of coming out early. The most likely scenario is he stays and has a clean-up surgery on the shoulder in the offseason.

Jake Locker's accuracy issues are directly related to poor Huskie pass protection and his "happy feet." When Jake sets his feet correctly in a secure pocket, he has a cannon and is accurate with it.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:10 AM   #21
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Pete Carroll called Locker the best QB his team has played against in his 9 years.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/po...ocker-the-best


But this quote from Carroll about Washington quarterback Jake Locker caught my eye:

"That's the best quarterback we've played in nine years here," Carroll said when told Washington has beaten only Idaho and USC the last two years. " Jake Locker has ridiculous talent, and had he remained healthy last year, Tyrone [Willingham] would still be coaching there."
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:10 AM   #22
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Like throwing more Ints than TDs?

Okay, assume we're talking about the drafting style of an NFL team other than the Chiefs.
He plays for a bad team.

Do I need to list the hundreds of guys that played in systems like Bradford's and put up stats like Bradford's that utterly failed in the NFL?
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:10 AM   #23
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He plays for a bad team.

Do I need to list the hundreds of guys that played in systems like Bradford's and put up stats like Bradford's that utterly failed in the NFL?
I expect Bradford to fail as well. There is Nothing that I have seen out of him that really impresses me. Lobbing passes to guys out of the spread who are open by 5-8 yards doesn't really put me in awe.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:27 AM   #24
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People on this board underestimate Bradford. I'm not saying he's going to be a great or very good pro or anything, but his receivers are just as open and just as covered as Sanchez' were, or that of any other major program. He throws a very nice catchable ball with great touch. Of course the system and leash he is on may mean he never develops as an NFL QB.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:51 AM   #25
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If Locker comes back to UW next year I think it's a lock that he would be the first QB taken in 2011 draft.

Locker is da shit!
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If Locker comes back to UW next year I think it's a lock that he would be the first QB taken in 2011 draft.

Locker is da shit!

.... assuming he stays healthy.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:31 PM   #27
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The stats don't agree with your argument at all. Stats aren't everything but when there is this much of a difference...

Bradford 07-08: 341 attempts, 237 comp, 3121 yards, 8 ints, 36tds, 12 sacks, 176.5 rating
Locker 07-08: 328 attempts, 155 comp, 2062 yards, 15 ints, 14 tds, 18 sacks, 105.0 rating

Also, Bradford is taller.
Locker ran for something like 1000 yards and scored over 10 TD's in 2007 too, IIRC.
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People on this board underestimate Bradford. I'm not saying he's going to be a great or very good pro or anything, but his receivers are just as open and just as covered as Sanchez' were, or that of any other major program. He throws a very nice catchable ball with great touch. Of course the system and leash he is on may mean he never develops as an NFL QB.
Bradford's scheme doesn't require him to make reads pre-snap. They line up and run their plays without making any adjustments to defensive alignment. That makes it MUCH easier on Bradford and it's a further testament to the amount talent that surrounds him.

The way the spread works basically means that guys like this have never had to read a defense or go through progressions like they will have to in the NFL.
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Locker was going to be a top prospect LAST YEAR before the entire team fell on their faces.

He's got far more NFL upside than Bradford. FAR more.
THIS.
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