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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think you should start a thread with a public poll that reads:

Right now, is Haley a better coach than Herm?

Make sure the poll is public.

Well shit dude?

One coach was a NFL HC for 8 years and the other is 13 games into his first season....

Shouldnt you wait until you have comparable time of service first?

I think at this point, both are freaking reeruns... One SHOULD of known better and the other is learning that he shouldnt repeat his stupidty...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well shit dude?

One coach was a NFL HC for 8 years and the other is 13 games into his first season....

Shouldnt you wait until you have comparable time of service first?

I think at this point, both are freaking reeruns... One SHOULD of known better and the other is learning that he shouldnt repeat his stupidty...

Except that Herm took his first team to the playoffs and lost at Oakland.

Haley? Well, considering the stupid shit he's pulled this season, I'm shocked he's got three wins.

SDChiefs · 12-17-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think you should start a thread with a public poll that reads:

Right now, is Haley a better coach than Herm?

Make sure the poll is public.

Make sure you have an option for both being a painful choice.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why?

That's just speculation.

Herm vs. Haley would not involve speculation.

Personally, I think it's VERY clear who's the better Head Coach.

And it's not even close.

Why?

Isn't all we do on here is speculate? Not one person can control, draft, sign, release or anything else for the Chiefs...

We speculate on who is the better coach based on our own opinions. We speculate how much money and what players or lack of players we should of signed this offseason...

We speculate that Pioli is trying to kill the franchise, or that Herm really knew what a football looked like....

This whole ****ing board is nothing but speculation or information from reporters.... Not one person can get information from Pioli, Hunt or Haley personally... We all just form our opinions with information gather and post it as fact...

Tell me I am wrong?

LaChapelle · 12-17-2009, 06:08 PM

An option of which you would rather have should be added.
Herm might be the better coach. I'd rather have Haley, he may improve. Herm not so much.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never seen anyone, outside of Madden or Tecmo Bowl, go for it from his own 28.

That REALLY deserved a thread of its own.

Hell, even Frank Gansz wasn't that ****ing stupid.

What about a coach of a team whois in playoff contention and who has the lead in a game and goes for it on 4th and 1 from his own 29 with 2 min left in the game and he is facing Peyton Manning?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well shit dude?

One coach was a NFL HC for 8 years and the other is 13 games into his first season....

Shouldnt you wait until you have comparable time of service first?

I think at this point, both are freaking reeruns... One SHOULD of known better and the other is learning that he shouldnt repeat his stupidty...

If Herm was *that* bad, it's not unreasonable to think that Haley should be better already.

FTR, we'd never be able to do that poll you propose; Haley won't be an NFL HC for 7-8 years. No. Chance.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Except that Herm took his first team to the playoffs and lost at Oakland.

Haley? Well, considering the stupid shit he's pulled this season, I'm shocked he's got three wins.

If he gets 4 wins, take your wife out for an ice cream cone....

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

What about a coach of a team whois in playoff contention and who has the lead in a game and goes for it on 4th and 1 from his own 29 with 2 min left in the game and he is facing Peyton Manning?

Mind-bottling.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

What about a coach of a team whois in playoff contention and who has the lead in a game and goes for it on 4th and 1 from his own 29 with 2 min left in the game and he is facing Peyton Manning?

Damn you pete! I have tried to erase those memories......

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Mind-bottling.

Especially when it is a coach who has what, 4 rings?

All coaches make idiot decisions at times. At least Haley did it with a team who was no where near the playoffs. Still a stupid decision but hardly impacting to the outcome of the season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

What about a coach of a team whois in playoff contention and who has the lead in a game and goes for it on 4th and 1 from his own 29 with 2 min left in the game and he is facing Peyton Manning?

JFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between GOING FOR IT and a ****ING FAKE PUNT!

And furthermore, the Chiefs were down ONE SCORE IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

****!!!!!

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

If he gets 4 wins, take your wife out for an ice cream cone....

Why? That's what I predicted all along.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between GOING FOR IT and a ****ING FAKE PUNT!

And furthermore, the Chiefs were down ONE SCORE IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

****!!!!!

...

Dane will be back soon, he needs a new Keyboard....

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

Especially when it is a coach who has what, 4 rings?

All coaches make idiot decisions at times. At least Haley did it with a team who was no where near the playoffs. Still a stupid decision but hardly impacting to the outcome of the season.

I think it was a major contributing factor to losing that game. And wins are precious commodities around these parts.

But like I said, its importance is when the decision is viewed as a microcosm.

12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley http://fwix.com/share/55_c6b76c6022 Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley by Matt Conner Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite. My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season. It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch. More after the jump: Star-divide Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach. Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold. We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.
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