Football Leach Fired - Page 6

**Old Dog** · 12-30-2009, 12:12 PM

per ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls0...ory?id=4781981

CBSsportsline linked article as well:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12724022
LUBBOCK, Texas -- Texas Tech has fired football coach Mike Leach.

The school handed a termination letter to Leach's attorney, Ted Liggett, on Wednesday just before the two sides were to appear in a Lubbock, Texas, courtroom for a hearing on the coach's suspension.

Liggett says the letter says Leach is "terminated with cause effective immediately."

Leach was suspended by the university on Monday while the school investigated allegations that he mistreated an injured player.

Receiver Adam James alleges Leach twice confined him to small, dark spaces during practice after the player was diagnosed with a concussion.

Texas Tech plays Michigan State on Saturday in the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio.

tk13 · 12-30-2009, 02:48 PM

Maybe the truth will come out eventually... but this seems to be a lot different than the Mangino situation. When the floodgates opened it seemed like all the past players spoke out against Mangino. In this situation you have one player alleging something against a coach, and most of the former players and coaches are backing the coach and talking about the player's past histrionics.

I also don't think this is even close to the worst thing that goes on in collegiate practices, in any sport. I'm not sure if it's even that big of a deal, but we don't know all the details. But that's a different discussion.

beer bacon · 12-30-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

AND it was guarded.

Why are you making light of this incident?

It's ****ing bullshit and the coach deserved to be fired.

PERIOD.

You CANNOT having coaches on a university campus treating students in this manner.

Yeah, players attending practice is downright awful.

KCUnited · 12-30-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

and?

Pretty sure he wasn't told he couldn't sleep because of a mild concussion.

I'd nap the shit out of that dark room...use my pads as a pillow...beats the shit out of being scout team at practice.

According to an anonymous source he wasn't allowed to lean against anything or sit. At one point it was deemed the electrical closed was too loud so they took him to an office in the press box and removed all the furniture in the room so he couldn't sit. It is also reported by the same source that he was caught sitting on a cooler in the first closet and the coolers were removed so he couldn't sit. No link. It was reported on the radio as I drove in this morning.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-30-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I also don't think this is even close to the worst thing that goes on in collegiate practices, in any sport. I'm not sure if it's even that big of a deal, but we don't know all the details. But that's a different discussion.

Proof?

Hootie · 12-30-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

According to an anonymous source he wasn't allowed to lean against anything or sit. At one point it was deemed the electrical closed was too loud so they took him to an office in the press box and removed all the furniture in the room so he couldn't sit. It is also reported by the same source that he was caught sitting on a cooler in the first closet and the coolers were removed so he couldn't sit. No link. It was reported on the radio as I drove in this morning.

I'm pretty ****ing sure if this guy wanted to sit, he could have sat...or if he wanted to leave, he could have left...

**Lzen** · 12-30-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.c...70202/19238949

Wow. WTH are the Tech administrators thinking? After reading that, it seems pretty obvious what was the problem.

Chiefnj2 · 12-30-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

and?

Pretty sure he wasn't told he couldn't sleep because of a mild concussion.

If the coach thought he had head trauma wherein there was a risk the student would slip into a coma if he fell asleep, then he should have immediately sent him to the hospital for observation.

jettio · 12-30-2009, 02:52 PM

This sounds like a fool's paradise.

Apparently, Leach thought one of his players was soft and a malingerer and disgruntled about playing time with a "little league" meddling parent who played in the NFL and works for ESPN, and he figured the best thing to do would be to punish him for being a malingerer faking a concussion by giving him some kind of teach you a lesson stay in this room kinda nonsense.

That would seem kinda stupid considering how this NFL season and Tim Tebow have made concussion recovery one of the biggest topics of this football season.

Sugar-britches goes crying to mommy and daddy ESPN and then Leach admits that he was intending to teach a lesson but is too proud to figure out that the concussion issue makes his move a bad one.

Unless Leach figured that Sugar britches would instantaneously become a tough man once Leach taught him this one lesson, you would have to figure that Leach is the silliest fool in this fool's paradise.

Hootie · 12-30-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Proof?

Have you ever ****ing played football before?

I saw worse shit than this in JV football when I was a freshmen in high school...

I saw our crazy ass baseball coach (who doubled as the JV football coach) make a fatass offensive lineman run until he threw up (those were the guidelines) for jumping offsides...

God forbid they made this kid (a little bitch from the way it was painted) stand in a room for a few hours for being a whiny distraction...

It just so happens he's the kid of the "Great White Hope!"

KCUnited · 12-30-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I'm pretty ****ing sure if this guy wanted to sit, he could have sat...or if he wanted to leave, he could have left...

He was allegedly told if he was found sitting or laying he would be kicked off the team, hence the guard. I don't know if any of it is true, just that an anonymous report was delivered to the media and reported on the air.

vailpass · 12-30-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Uhhh..

http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...40556326.shtml

No. I said turn him over to the medical staff if you want him off the field then LEAVE HIM ALONE.
Not turn him over to the medical staff then act like a complete mental reject and stick the kid in a dark room under threat of retaliation should he wish to leave the room. Constructive kidnapping is not okay just because you called the doctor first.

vailpass · 12-30-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Yeah, players attending practice is downright awful.

It is amazing how people will compromise their values to support a team.
There are two kinds of people in this discussion: those who can clearly see that Leach crossed the line and comitted a wrongful act and Texas Tech fans.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

He had a concussion you stupid ****

Again, what I'd guess was happening was that he was angling to being asked to stand and watch practice with the team, which doesn't seem unreasonable. He then claimed the sun was bothering him (entirely possible) so the coach told him to go into a nearby room where the sunlight couldn't bother him, and continue to stand up like he would have had he been able to stay on the filed.

That's speculation, but seems pretty straightfoward and if true, perfectly reasonable way to handle a player you think is a slacker who's got a reputation among the team as a primadona who's not putting in a full effort, and who also happens to have a concussion.

I don't get the impression that having a player stand for 3 hours which a concussion is horrible. If so, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the field to begin with.

And if there was some medical harm in having him stand, and Leach should have known (was told and ignored dr's advice, etc) then he should be held accountable.

But just having had a concussion doesn't seem like standing for 3 hours is unacceptable behavior.

beer bacon · 12-30-2009, 02:56 PM

"Hey Jim, if you don't come to work today, then don't bother coming back ever again."

"You can't do that boss! That's kidnapping! I'm calling the cops!"

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-30-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

Have you ever ****ing played football before?

You're ****ing dumbass. I played Kansas 6A football, dipshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

I saw worse shit than this in JV football when I was a freshmen in high school...

No wonder you're so ****ed up then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

I saw our crazy ass baseball coach (who doubled as the JV football coach) make a fatass offensive lineman run until he threw up (those were the guidelines) for jumping offsides...

I bet that coach was the toast of the town, right?

JFC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

God forbid they made this kid (a little bitch from the way it was painted) stand in a room for a few hours for being a whiny distraction...

It just so happens he's the kid of the "Great White Hope!"

More proof that you're an ignorant moron.

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12-30-2009, 02:48 PM	#76
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1907500	Maybe the truth will come out eventually... but this seems to be a lot different than the Mangino situation. When the floodgates opened it seemed like all the past players spoke out against Mangino. In this situation you have one player alleging something against a coach, and most of the former players and coaches are backing the coach and talking about the player's past histrionics. I also don't think this is even close to the worst thing that goes on in collegiate practices, in any sport. I'm not sure if it's even that big of a deal, but we don't know all the details. But that's a different discussion.
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12-30-2009, 02:52 PM	#83
jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4504930	This sounds like a fool's paradise. Apparently, Leach thought one of his players was soft and a malingerer and disgruntled about playing time with a "little league" meddling parent who played in the NFL and works for ESPN, and he figured the best thing to do would be to punish him for being a malingerer faking a concussion by giving him some kind of teach you a lesson stay in this room kinda nonsense. That would seem kinda stupid considering how this NFL season and Tim Tebow have made concussion recovery one of the biggest topics of this football season. Sugar-britches goes crying to mommy and daddy ESPN and then Leach admits that he was intending to teach a lesson but is too proud to figure out that the concussion issue makes his move a bad one. Unless Leach figured that Sugar britches would instantaneously become a tough man once Leach taught him this one lesson, you would have to figure that Leach is the silliest fool in this fool's paradise. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	"Hey Jim, if you don't come to work today, then don't bother coming back ever again." "You can't do that boss! That's kidnapping! I'm calling the cops!"
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