Chiefs Chiefs tried to trade Charles - Page 30

Hammock Parties · 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM

http://kan.scout.com/2/934713.html

With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.

**Donger** · 01-04-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Third down backs should not be buried on the depth chart for lesser talented players, like say Dantrell Savage or Jackie Battle.

If this is so, can you explain this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Battle and Savage > Charles.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6090183

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2010, 01:29 PM

Revisionist Hootie:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

That USC offense had to be better than the Chiefs current offense. As of now, we have LJ/Tony Gonzalez/Bowe and Waters...everyone else is a 'never was' with little coaching as well.

And Leinart is so much better than Thigpen it is sickening. I think the Chiefs would be better from here on out with Todd friggin' Reesing at QB over Tyler Thigpen.

OUT OF THE PARK!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

yeah and it's the same people who absolutely crushed the guy all last year...

I always thought he was a baller with room to grow but whatever...can't look back now...always thought he could end up being a Romo clone

Titty Meat · 01-04-2010, 01:30 PM

Hootie belongs in a slave field in Samolia.

Hootie · 01-04-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Revisionist Hootie:

OUT OF THE PARK!!

dude you must have gotten that during last years Atlanta Falcons game...

You know...where he started 1-12 with 2 picks?

after I saw what he did against the Jets...like a lot of people, I quickly changed tunes...

So congrats on your cherry picking abilities...now dig a little deeper and you can find DOZENS of posts where I compare him to Tony Romo last year...and if you don't want to, maybe I will if you continue to try and paint the picture you're trying to paint with your cherrypicking...why don't you post the timestamp on that quote.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

If this is so, can you explain this?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=6090183

You might want to read the thread you are posting in right now, and see the links I've put up. I bitched that very day about Charles being inactive.

Get this checked:

Hootie · 01-04-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

TTC as your idol explains everything.

That guy is the biggest phony on the ****ing board.

He was Hamas before Hamas was Hamas - berating people that didn't want a QB, posting a true fan manifesto, going on a ****ing rampage.

Pioli was hired, and everything changed.

Give me a ****ing break.

My idol?

No...but I respect his takes...

Just like tk13...

Underrated posters with no agenda like you, who call them how they see it...tk13 is a very rational, very educated poster who rarely posts because of all of the bullshit agendas you dumbass drafturbators have against anything Pioli...

that's why every freaking thread turns into a pissing match...

but hey...you think you are making some point but I'll just quickly remind you...

YOU ARE TAKING A STORY REPORTED BY NICK ATHAN AND TREATING IT AS IF IT REALLY HAS SOME SORT OF SUBSTANCE.

Just take a minute to breathe that in...

(and if that's not enough just go reread the game thread from page 1 and stomach how big of a douche you acted like the entire freaking 30 pages)

Hootie · 01-04-2010, 01:32 PM

COME ON HAMAS

POST A TIMESTAMP ON THAT TODD REESING/TYLER THIGPEN POST...

BET IT IS AROUND THE SAME WEEK AS THE FALCONS GAME LAST YEAR...

****ing cherrypicking pussy.

Hootie · 01-04-2010, 01:32 PM

come on...you found the post...at least add a link to the post...

Odds he does it?

5:1 against

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

dude you must have gotten that during last years Atlanta Falcons game...

You know...where he started 1-12 with 2 picks?

after I saw what he did against the Jets...like a lot of people, I quickly changed tunes...

So congrats on your cherry picking abilities...now dig a little deeper and you can find DOZENS of posts where I compare him to Tony Romo last year...and if you don't want to, maybe I will if you continue to try and paint the picture you're trying to paint with your cherrypicking...why don't you post the timestamp on that quote.

So "always" doesn't include "always" and instead means "when I say it does".

Ok.

Titty Meat · 01-04-2010, 01:34 PM

Hooite needs his prozac

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

COME ON HAMAS

POST A TIMESTAMP ON THAT TODD REESING/TYLER THIGPEN POST...

BET IT IS AROUND THE SAME WEEK AS THE FALCONS GAME LAST YEAR...

****ing cherrypicking pussy.

I have no problem posting it, ****. You were the one who said you always thought he was a baller.

Hold on, I'll go dig it up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2010, 01:36 PM

UH..........OH

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=39

Post date 10-20-2008

Chiefs-Falcons

Game date 9/21/2008

Something doesn't mesh here, I wonder what it is?

**dirk digler** · 01-04-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jamaal Charles was a rookie in 2008. At the beginning of 2008, Larry Johnson was a year removed from back to back 1700 yard seasons.

This isn't that hard to understand.

He also was coming off a 400+ carries, was over 30 years old and was coming off an injury.

Like I said I wasn't expecting him to become a starter right away but he couldn't beat out Kolby Smith.

Hootie · 01-04-2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

UH..........OH

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...3&postcount=39

Post date 10-20-2008

Chiefs-Falcons

Game date 9/21/2008

Something doesn't mesh here, I wonder what it is?

Yeah

You ****ing moron!

Thigpen's next start wasn't until October 26, 2008!

Dumb****!

Huard got the next two starts before the BYE.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There is nothing that Athan will ever say that I will consider to be a possibility.

I like you a lot on this board, but you putting "exectutive of the decade" in every post referencing Pioli reminds me of Reerun's Herm hatred.

You know, had it not been jammed down everyone's throat when he was hired, I probably would have never used it.

It was the answer to everything.

I (or anyone else) could show how piss-poor the Patriots drafts have been, and why that concerns me, and everyone played the EOTD card as a defense. Just as an example.

First, it was that Pioli and a new coach alone would get this team near .500

No one wanted Cassel, then we trade for him, and everyone thinks he's great.

The level of flip-flopping and excuse making for this guy is unlike nothing I've ever seen.

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