Football Source: Weis intrigued by Bears job - Page 5

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM

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CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.

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Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.

Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99.

Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27.

Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:41 PM

Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're letting your FF frustrations blind you on this one, Frank. He rarely went down on first contact last year, mostly because he wasn't getting contact until the 2nd level. This year, his OL did him no favors.

Forte didn't turn into a POS overnight.

This has nothing to do with fantasy football.

I watched just about every Bears game this year. The guy NEVER broke tackles. He never created plays on his own.

The Bears line sucked, but even a physical runner is getting yards after first contact. Forte didn't do that.

If there wasn't a hole, he didn't get anything.

It's not last year anymore. Forte was a good runner his rookie year. He regressed worse than any 2nd year back I've ever seen.

He's not physical by any means.

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:44 PM

Also I don't think anyone should be looking at a RB as a centerpiece seeing as they have very short careers.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

The love Cutler gets around here is amazing. Bears out of the playoffs, what does Jay do? Throw 7 touchdowns.

I just don't see Cutler as anything but Elvis Grbac. Both padded stats when games and seasons didn't matter anymore. Both had a bullshit care-free attitude.

I guess having a rocket arm eliminates all deficiencies.

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:47 PM

That's nice and all, he's better than our guy.

I'm not sitting here pimping him as Manning or Rodgers or Rivers or something.

Frazod · 01-05-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

Shit. Cutler is Rex Grossman with diabetes and a bad attitude. I still can't believe how much the Bears gave up for his punk ass.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's nice and all, he's better than our guy.

I'm not sitting here pimping him as Manning or Rodgers or Rivers or something.

No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

**dirk digler** · 01-05-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The love Cutler gets around here is amazing. Bears out of the playoffs, what does Jay do? Throw 7 touchdowns.

I just don't see Cutler as anything but Elvis Grbac. Both padded stats when games and seasons didn't matter anymore. Both had a bullshit care-free attitude.

I guess having a rocket arm eliminates all deficiencies.

He is not even Elvis Grbac. He is Jeff George reincarnate until he proves otherwise.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

Considering the QB is the hardest position to find on offense, you could see why, provided you weren't blinded by Cutler hate.

For all Cutlers shortcomings, real and perceived, he's still heads and shoulders above Cassel.

The offense revolves around the QB. Kinda important if you're an OC.

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

Well that would factor in to my decision, it's harder to get a QB than anything else. RB's are a dime a dozen.

**DeezNutz** · 01-05-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This has nothing to do with fantasy football.

I watched just about every Bears game this year. The guy NEVER broke tackles. He never created plays on his own.

The Bears line sucked, but even a physical runner is getting yards after first contact. Forte didn't do that.

If there wasn't a hole, he didn't get anything.

It's not last year anymore. Forte was a good runner his rookie year. He regressed worse than any 2nd year back I've ever seen.

He's not physical by any means.

I don't think he regressed. As a runner, he wasn't spectacular as a rookie.

Captain Checkdown, however, did a great job dumping it off to him in space. With Cutler, the Bears did not properly utilize Forte's skill set.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Considering the QB is the hardest position to find on offense, you could see why, provided you weren't blinded by Cutler hate.

For all Cutlers shortcomings, real and perceived, he's still heads and shoulders above Cassel.

Yes, it's just a bias with Cutler. Give me a break. The guy is a shitbag with a big arm. My Cutler hate is based on decision-making, attitude and not leading his team to anything EVER in his career.

What exactly do you love about Cutler besides the fact he can throw it a mile like Uncle Rico?

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:52 PM

Cutler likes to push the ball down field, anyone that thought Forte would catch 70 balls again, was high.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-05-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't think he regressed. As a runner, he wasn't spectacular as a rookie.

Captain Checkdown, however, did a great job dumping it off to him in space. With Cutler, the Bears did not properly utilize Forte's skill set.

I can agree with this.

However, his rookie year he was able to make plays when there weren't any.

This last year, if there wasn't a hole, he was getting tackled by the first defender.

Mecca · 01-05-2010, 09:53 PM

Whoa Whoa Whoa a shitbag?

He's at the very least a borderline top 10 QB, atleast 10-15.

01-05-2010, 08:29 PM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-69474	Source: Weis intrigued by Bears job http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nf...ory?id=4799863 CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday. ESPNChicago.com Bears blog The latest news from Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson. Blog Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears. Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99. Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27. Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner. Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.
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01-05-2010, 09:41 PM	#61
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01-05-2010, 09:44 PM	#63
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-612950	Also I don't think anyone should be looking at a RB as a centerpiece seeing as they have very short careers.
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01-05-2010, 09:47 PM	#65
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-612950	That's nice and all, he's better than our guy. I'm not sitting here pimping him as Manning or Rodgers or Rivers or something.
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01-05-2010, 09:52 PM	#73
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-612950	Cutler likes to push the ball down field, anyone that thought Forte would catch 70 balls again, was high.
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01-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#75
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-612950	Whoa Whoa Whoa a shitbag? He's at the very least a borderline top 10 QB, atleast 10-15.
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